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What would be a good way to hide the bars of an SCA Kettle?

I have seen some done in maille... whats another less expensive option?


thanks for all the ideas!

MJ

I have seen Baron Robert use suede or light leather.

I think Steve Forth did a light padded/gamboised one.

I have seen some pics that had a drape, it looked like canvas.
It was form fitted and had some dags, it looked very period.
It flayed out nice over the shoulders.
Sort of a tough sergeant look.

Had a nice Osprey flavor also.

Hal

Hi,

Why not wear a barbote, a form of bevor often worn with kettlehats, with it? They look good, give good protection, are removable, and are historically accurate too!

Russ

That is a good idea Russ.
Like this?



Hal

Halberds wrote:That is a good idea Russ.
Like this?



Hal

Absolutely ! And that is a really nice combination, where are they from please Hal??

Russ

Thats a pic I also found just doing a google search.
Anybody know its time period roughly?

Obviously they are associated, but they are both nice examples. They probably date to the last quarter of the 15th century, and I would say that the helmet is probably Spanish and the barbote Italian.
I have posted here pictures of an example in the Royal Armouries, Leeds. This is of about the same date, but both pieces are Italian. The barbote is missing its gorget lame in this case.

Russ

The barbote (bevor) that Halberds posted a pic of is almost certainly from the Rhodes hoard, but it is not in Karcheski's and Richardson's book.

It's displayed with a very nice cabocete. They look good together.

Mac

I have not decided if I am going to hang mail from mine or go with just a arming cap as per these 2 pics from the Priory of St. Colin. I like them both but will probably end up with the mail...covers the gorget..will post my kit when finished..the helm is done by Halberds...the 2 gentleman from the Priory by Master Magnus..Adam Berry.
Rannulf

Dear me, Hospitaller, I had to look at pic "tmpphpcCxV0g.jpg" twice to see that that was the hem of your aketon and not pocket flaps of cargo pockets to the gamboised cuisses!

Indeed, the lack of pockets in garments before the late sixteenth century, while explicable enough, for tights just will not do, is nonetheless remarkable. I suppose they just didn't have small portable necessaries then.

Nowadays SCA purses hold Blackberries.

[/thread drift] The humble butted mail drape is expensive only in terms of time.

Dear Konstantin the Red, Pic is not me..it is Eadric if I recall.
Rannulf

ahh the barbote is too late for what I am doing. I should have specified late 14th century.

It was my intent to sew a hood with lyripipe tha was cut at the correct angle so it could be attatched the the grill much like the maile aventail in the above pic.
Trying to replicate the look of a fellow wearing his kettle over his hood.
You sometimes see examples of this in art.
Hungarian comes to mind but I am sure it was done all over to deal with unpleasant weather.