Progress pictures of a Germam harnes 15th century

MattB · Post by **MattB** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:13 pm

Domnall wrote:I like looking at Jiri's work but I feel like a retard when I do.

Here is a metaphor. You got Jiri's work and my work. Sure, they are both armor and you can try both on, but you only want your friends to see you in one of them.

Personaly if I was in Kirstie Alley I wouldn't want anyone to see me!

Honestly surely a ferrari and a lada would have been more appropriate!

Looking good Jiri.

Matt

AaronT · Post by **AaronT** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:42 am

I bookmarked this thread, the work that this man produces is impeccable, exquisite, and inspirational.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:27 pm

I will make some of the requested pictures tomorow morning. In the mean time here are some more, before sewing the gloves into the gauntlets and fitting the buckles to them.

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/117a.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/117b.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/117c.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/117d.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/117e.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/117f.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/117g.JPG[/img]

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:53 pm

hmm the background with the blue carpewt looks like sh.......

Kilkenny · Post by **Kilkenny** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:54 pm

Jiri Lucius. wrote:hmm the background with the blue carpewt looks like sh.......

There's a background ?

I can't stop looking at the filework, the detailing... as has been said by others before:

I'll be in my bunk.

Giles de Nablus · Post by **Giles de Nablus** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:47 pm

lorenzo2 wrote:Coming together beautifully. Its kind of shame all those hammer marks are going to get polished out.

Totally agree

Franklin · Post by **Franklin** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:32 am

May I see a pic. of the under side of the gauntlets?

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:14 am

Franklin wrote:May I see a pic. of the under side of the gauntlets?

sure I will make one too.
Here is a picture from a event we had last week.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:31 am

Franklin wrote:May I see a pic. of the under side of the gauntlets?

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/13072009.JPG[/img]

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:54 am

Back from the two week vacation in Croatia.

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/sh1.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/sh2.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/sh3.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/sh4.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/sh5.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/sh6.JPG[/img]

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/ ... 202009.JPG[/img]

Jonathan Atkin · Post by **Jonathan Atkin** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:41 pm

I'd love to see an "armour off" between hugo and jiri I think a vortex would open and destrpoy us all! Awe inspiring pieces jiri

Pitbull Armory · Post by **Pitbull Armory** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:32 pm

Hi there, Welcome back Jiri. Good to see you. Those pauldrons are the strangest, most beautiful well made pauldrons I think Ive ever seen. Are they historical or your own design? The hand made washers on the gauntlets is a nice touch also. Keep up the great work and thank you for the pictures.

Take care

Pitbull

Shade · Post by **Shade** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:02 pm

Just wow again... (as always).

Wolffhart · Post by **Wolffhart** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:23 pm

Pitbull Armory wrote:Hi there, Welcome back Jiri. Good to see you. Those pauldrons are the strangest, most beautiful well made pauldrons I think Ive ever seen. Are they historical or your own design? The hand made washers on the gauntlets is a nice touch also. Keep up the great work and thank you for the pictures.

Take care

Pitbull

They are historical, they are based mostly on this pair in Germanishes Nationalmuseum in Nuremberg with Jiri adding his own amazing flare.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:49 am

Forgot to add this image last time

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/SH0.JPG[/img]

Boskaljon · Post by **Boskaljon** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:02 am

Amazing.

lorenzo2 · Post by **lorenzo2** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:35 am

Very nice, I especially like the way the fluting moves so seamlessly from one plate to another. How do you do that? Do you finish one plate then mark and start the next or something else?

James Arlen Gillaspie · Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:58 am

One should be very careful about taking the Nurnberg 'gothic' as a serious historical example. It has been heavily messed with. The pauldons look like they were of standard mid 15th century Italian construction and then modified, probably in the 19th century.

Wolffhart · Post by **Wolffhart** » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:56 pm

James,
The Nurnberg is only one of the inspiration sources I sent Jiri for the pauldrons. Mainly, my overall idea was something similar to pauldrons that the knight is wearing in Meister E.S's The Knight and the Lady. That said, the harness is a tool for living history and not a particular recreation of any specific piece, but I do believe that Jiri's work on it is more then historically plausible.

*edit: I meant Knight and the Lady not Knight in the Lady

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Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:29 am

Made some quick pictures in the morning before rushing to the office.

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/ca.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/ca1.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/ca2.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/ca3.JPG[/img]

Aussie Yeoman · Post by **Aussie Yeoman** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:23 pm

I didn't see any holes for the points anywhere. Is that something the customer does based on where the points are on his arming doublet?

Is it too late to get some picture of those gauntlets on your hands without gloves?

Dave

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:30 pm

Aussie Yeoman wrote:I didn't see any holes for the points anywhere. Is that something the customer does based on where the points are on his arming doublet?

Is it too late to get some picture of those gauntlets on your hands without gloves?

Dave

The holes will be driled after consulting the customer.
Damm sorry almost forgot about it. Will make one after work tomorrow.

Jiri

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:55 am

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/15_09.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/15_09a.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/15_09b.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/15_09c.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/15_09e.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/15_09f.JPG[/img]
[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/15_09g.JPG[/img]

Erin · Post by **Erin** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:02 am

OoOoOo.... Ahhhhh!

Aussie Yeoman · Post by **Aussie Yeoman** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:18 pm

When I grow up, I want to be this harness!

Dave

MattB · Post by **MattB** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:29 pm

All looking real good Jiri. What sort of polish are you doing on this?

Matt

Rod Walker · Post by **Rod Walker** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:11 am

So very pretty.

Don't forget me for a set

Mark D. Chapman · Post by **Mark D. Chapman** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:20 pm

Jiri,
You do a beautiful job of defininhg and cleaning up your flutes.

After you finish the hammer cleanup/planishing, what do you use to sand them smooth??

hand sanding? flap wheels? belt sander? dremmel tool?

Thanks for the insight of following your work,

Mark

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 1:35 am

I only have two small drills and with them I sand and polish the whole thing. I use paper-cloth sandind circles that get attached to a ruber circle with a central screw and a large vasher. For polishing I use a kind of diferent polishing wheels. I will make a picture of them. I need to get a better sanding gear but sofar I did not have time or the cash to get some. Also my main workshop is so tiny that it fits one man. The dirty work like sanding I do in the garage.

Mark D. Chapman wrote:Jiri,
You do a beautiful job of defininhg and cleaning up your flutes.

After you finish the hammer cleanup/planishing, what do you use to sand them smooth??

hand sanding? flap wheels? belt sander? dremmel tool?

Thanks for the insight of following your work,

Mark

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:21 am

Beautiful work!

Ideval · Post by **Ideval** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:41 am

You, sir, are a raiser of Standards!

Huzzah!

J.G.Elmslie · Post by **J.G.Elmslie** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:28 am

IdÃ«val wrote:You, sir, are a raiser of Standards!

Huzzah!

I'd certainly raise a standard for him if he offered me the harness to wear for the battle...

Jiri, do you mind hate mail? I think it's the only way to express how gorgeous that work is, and everyone else has done so many compliments now, so it'd just be repeating other people. that little "before rushing to the office" comment was the final nail in the coffin... that you just do this on the side, not as a career.... damn you for having that sort of talent.

And that you do all that with just a hand-drill for polishing, and the likes is absolutely sickening... and amazingly gorgeous work.

I'm going to go and sit in a corner and sulk now.

*goes off to cry*

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:37 am

I think a guy with alot of talent can do almost anything with very little, and a guy with little talent (me) cant do anything worth a darn no matter what wonderful tools and machines he might have at his disposal.

J.G.Elmslie · Post by **J.G.Elmslie** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:19 pm

Otto von Teich wrote:I think a guy with alot of talent can do almost anything with very little, and a guy with little talent (me) cant do anything worth a darn no matter what wonderful tools and machines he might have at his disposal.

oh, I'd agree. I once saw the toolkit for one of the master engravers of whitby jet, from the victorian era... and one of the main tools was a .303 bullet cartridge with an old, cut-down hacksaw blade wedged in it.
incredible.

I'm mostly sulking as I know I have the ability, working in metal and woods, but I have near-crippling RSI in both hands, which means I'll most likely never be able to use the skills I had to make armour as beautiful, tools or not.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:17 am

Progress pictures of a Germam harnes 15th century

Howdy

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