Progress pictures of a Germam harnes 15th century

lorenzo2 · Post by **lorenzo2** » Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:24 pm

Thanks, just wondering how it was done.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:29 am

Jak wrote:That breast plate is a beaut! Will the lower half be attatched by a slot rivet or a leather strap?

It will be fixed by rivets without any movement.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:29 am

Rod Walker · Post by **Rod Walker** » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:38 am

Very nice.

Takes me back to when you were sending me progress pics of my harness.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:25 am

Dam I wished to post more pictures, but im so busy with our baby that I do not get in the workshop at all. And im so tired that I can fall asleep any were.

This weekend coming up we have monday off and tuesday is bank holiday so thats 4 days off. Hope to mke some progress then and post more pictures.

Jiri

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:15 pm

ok , here are more from the back plate.

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Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:07 am

More pictures tonight. Im just borowing a video camera, anybody interested to see some of the things that I do on a video ?

thorgaz · Post by **thorgaz** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:38 am

I for one am definitely interested! That would be awesome if you could put some videos up.

MattB · Post by **MattB** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:53 am

Jiri Lucius. wrote:More pictures tonight. Im just borowing a video camera, anybody interested to see some of the things that I do on a video ?

Certainly, videos are always welcome

especialy if you fancy doing one of shaping your german gauntlet knuckles.

All looking good Jiri, look forward to seeing the further progress.

Cheers

Matt

Vermin · Post by **Vermin** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:39 pm

"anybody interested to see some of the things that I do on a video ? "

Oh, riiiiiight, like you even have to ASK that?!?!?

POST 'EM!!!

Cedri · Post by **Cedri** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:10 pm

I'm with the rest Video Video Video Video Video

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:20 am

OK, I will try. It will take a few days to cut, and load up to the net.
Will start on the gauntlets.

Aussie Yeoman · Post by **Aussie Yeoman** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:18 pm

Just quickly Jiri, on the picture of the elbow patter you posted, how broad is it at its widest point, approximately?

Dave

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:05 am

Aussie Yeoman wrote:Just quickly Jiri, on the picture of the elbow patter you posted, how broad is it at its widest point, approximately?

Dave

I will post it again with some measurements tonight.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:05 am

OK, I have tried to play around with the camera, dam as one person its almost imposible to tape something. I need a second person to do this.
So in the mean time here are some pictures.

adamstjohn · Post by **adamstjohn** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:14 am

"Watching" Jiri work is better than some sex....

(Some!)

AdamL

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 4:39 pm

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/S4300295.JPG[/img]
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lorenzo2 · Post by **lorenzo2** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:54 am

Very nice progress pictures. How was the ulna bump in the first pic (the one with the little X) formed? I don't see any hammer marks but the texture tells me the bump was stretched from the back some how.

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:00 am

lorenzo2 wrote:Very nice progress pictures. How was the ulna bump in the first pic (the one with the little X) formed? I don't see any hammer marks but the texture tells me the bump was stretched from the back some how.

Hi,
it was streched from inside with a rounded punch into a hole in a wooden stump.

Jiri

lorenzo2 · Post by **lorenzo2** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:19 am

Thanks, looking forward to more progress pics as things progress

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:23 pm

Aussie Yeoman wrote:Just quickly Jiri, on the picture of the elbow patter you posted, how broad is it at its widest point, approximately?

Dave

Ok the patttern is 30cm long from the narrow tip to the V cut. 24.5 cm wide and the V cut is 11.5 cm along the side

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:40 am

Here goes another pic from the proces on the upper part of the gauntlet.

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/S4300307.JPG[/img]

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:32 am

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/777.JPG[/img]
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MattB · Post by **MattB** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:53 am

Nice, what steel gauges are you using here.

Matt

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:24 am

MattB wrote:Nice, what steel gauges are you using here.

Matt

The cuff is from 18 ga and the midlle part around the wrist is 16 ga.

Jiri

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:04 pm

Well the baby takes a lot of time from my schedule

here is some progress.

[img]http://www.luciferarmoury.com/unedited/S4300335.JPG[/img]
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Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:21 pm

Thanks for all the wonderful progress pics.
It makes me feel like I am standing there looking over your shoulder.

I certainly enjoy your threads.

Hal

thorgaz · Post by **thorgaz** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:24 am

These pictures are amazing!

Did the punch you used to do the ulna bump pretty much match the bump made in the metal size wise? And when you raised the ulna bump, how big was the hammer? Any chance you could get a picture of the hammers you use? One last question (for now) does that very top plate of the backplate articulate any? It doesn't look like it would, but then if it didn't, why would you make it a seperate plate.

Thanks it advance! Also, thanks for putting up these pics for all of us.

Aussie Yeoman · Post by **Aussie Yeoman** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:41 am

If I may answer for Jiri on some points:

Ulna bumps: I raise ulna bumps over a spike, though it doesn't match the shape of the final ulna bump. In fact, the first one I did over the horn of an anvil. If you had a punch the same shape as the ulna bump, I think it would just punch a hole in the plate. I personally do the raising with a plain cross-pein hammer.

The rivets in the middle of the backplates would indicate that they do not articulate. And why would they? your rib cage doesn't move very much. I would say that there are a couple of reasons for making backplates in sections though. 1-they look really pretty. 2-it's easier to forge smaller bits of steel.

My answers on these questions may differ to Jiri's though.

Dave

Wolffhart · Post by **Wolffhart** » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:26 am

thorgaz wrote: One last question (for now) does that very top plate of the backplate articulate any? It doesn't look like it would, but then if it didn't, why would you make it a seperate plate.

Because the original piece I asked him to base it off does.
(Posted as links so no one gets confused.)
http://www.zornhau.com/Armour/MI07989g02a.jpg
http://www.zornhau.com/Armour/Germanish ... %20Ger.JPG
http://www.zornhau.com/Armour/gothic3net.JPG

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:50 am

thorgaz wrote:These pictures are amazing!

Did the punch you used to do the ulna bump pretty much match the bump made in the metal size wise? And when you raised the ulna bump, how big was the hammer? Any chance you could get a picture of the hammers you use? One last question (for now) does that very top plate of the backplate articulate any? It doesn't look like it would, but then if it didn't, why would you make it a seperate plate.

Thanks it advance! Also, thanks for putting up these pics for all of us.

Hi,

The punch is a bit smaller that the round bump you see on the small plate from outside.
I use two hammers for this, will post pic later. But it can be done with one hammer.
Something to the back plate, the small plates will be riveted together with flushed rivets. Its better as it is much stronger in a case if you fall. Other wise the single plates can get a twist in them. Its only made from mild steel. Same problem has propably Rod Walker in a case of falling of a horse. If it was from spring steel it could be without these rivets.

Jiri

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:09 pm

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lorenzo2 · Post by **lorenzo2** » Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:11 pm

Very nice, especially the sharp line on the waist line. Looking forward to more progress pics

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:32 am

WOW! Great work!

Jiri Lucius. · Post by **Jiri Lucius.** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:28 pm

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