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I'm lookign at a gambeson on Medival Market, that I really like the looks of.
But I want to know if it really does have any historic 14th century presedance.

Any thoughts?

Leo?Chef?Vitus?WhiteMountain? Anybody?

http://medieval-market.biz/details.php?id_towar=162&s=1

MJBlazek wrote:I'm lookign at a gambeson on Medival Market, that I really like the looks of.
But I want to know if it really does have any historic 14th century presedance.

Any thoughts?

Leo?Chef?Vitus?WhiteMountain? Anybody?

http://medieval-market.biz/details.php?id_towar=162&s=1

Something like that does indeed appear in art in the second half of the 14th century. That said, the cest of the gambeson seemed more padded (although that could be artistic convention, look at effigies of the day). I don't recollect the dagged edge, but the sleeves and general body style seem proper.

It's not jumping out in my memory of Italian art from this time period, but I'd be curious to know exactly which "Italian iconography" they're referring to -- I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Might as well pop them a question and ask. And then let us know the answer here when they get back to you.

Or maybe someone here already recognizes the image(s?) and will post them here for all our edification. (That's the kind of thing I love about this place.)

-Tasha

Castle of Sabbianoro, Avio c. 1340.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/SandB/avio.JPG

Tasha McG wrote:It's not jumping out in my memory of Italian art from this time period, but I'd be curious to know exactly which "Italian iconography" they're referring to -- I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Might as well pop them a question and ask. And then let us know the answer here when they get back to you.

Or maybe someone here already recognizes the image(s?) and will post them here for all our edification. (That's the kind of thing I love about this place.)

-Tasha

An Italian ealy-ish 14th century fresco, I think from Florence, in the communal palazzo, depicting "Good" government, and "bad" government - the one showing prosperity, and commerce, the other things falling to pieces and brigandage.

Ernst wrote:Castle of Sabbianoro, Avio c. 1340.

http://www.thearma.org/essays/SandB/avio.JPG

Nailed it in one. Thanks, Ernst. The date makes sense for the style depicted on the merchant site posted above. Definitely not late 14thc, on average.

Chef -- I know the mural you speak of, but not eidetically. There's a lot going on in that picture.

Another part of the fresco.

http://www.vitatrentina.it/var/vitatren ... d_avio.jpg


http://www.fondoambiente.it/upload/phot ... ieri_b.JPG


Images of a diorama of the room--

http://laboratorioarcheologia.blogspot. ... onara.html

SO what would go with this gambeson?

It looks like a CoP? or is that just a jupon?

I don't really see anything depicting chain...


If one were to try and build a kit around the look of this fresco, what would one need?

chef de chambre wrote:

Tasha McG wrote:It's not jumping out in my memory of Italian art from this time period, but I'd be curious to know exactly which "Italian iconography" they're referring to -- I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Might as well pop them a question and ask. And then let us know the answer here when they get back to you.

Or maybe someone here already recognizes the image(s?) and will post them here for all our edification. (That's the kind of thing I love about this place.)

-Tasha

An Italian ealy-ish 14th century fresco, I think from Florence, in the communal palazzo, depicting "Good" government, and "bad" government - the one showing prosperity, and commerce, the other things falling to pieces and brigandage.

Ambrogio Lorenzetti, Allegories of Good Government/Bad Government
http://www.zerp.uni-bremen.de/deutsch/i ... ti_002.jpg

http://www.in-arts.net/images/Ambrogio_ ... etail2.jpg