Pennsic House

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:26 pm

wow

my camp sucks

gandi · Post by **gandi** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:41 pm

Wow!

deflagratio · Post by **deflagratio** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:29 pm

Gentlemen, I do believe the bar has left Earth's orbit.

Did you have any kind of doors or curtains for the lower floor?

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:41 pm

There are no doors or curtains for the lower story. The house will definitely be up next year! Glad you all enjoy it, even if just from the photos. Next year you all have no excuse not to get down to the casa and check it out if you're at Pennsic. It's worth the while.

-Gerhard

Thomas Powers · Post by **Thomas Powers** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:22 pm

Living well is the best revenge!

Thomas

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:54 pm

Astounding.

Steve

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:04 pm

If there is no enclosure on the first floor -- what are the security protocols to prevent someone from walking by and snagging something day or night?

ANd, on a related note, if it is being kept at Cooper's Lake, what are the provisions to close it up and keep critters (and squatters) out?

Gaston, I'd love to see blueprints/diagrams on this thing. It gives me all sorts of evil ideas.

Effinghmwahaha

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:19 pm

Effingham wrote:If there is no enclosure on the first floor -- what are the security protocols to prevent someone from walking by and snagging something day or night?

ANd, on a related note, if it is being kept at Cooper's Lake, what are the provisions to close it up and keep critters (and squatters) out?

Gaston, I'd love to see blueprints/diagrams on this thing. It gives me all sorts of evil ideas.

Effinghmwahaha

It all breaks down and is currently at my shop. I brought it back for some improvements and tweaks. But next year it will be stored in a trailer on site. It sets up fast and breaks down fast, so there is no need to leave assembled. (Everything you see in these shots fits into a 22â€™ trailer.)
As for someone coming in, we are in a secure camp and against the lake, so it would be difficult for unwanted visitors to gain access.
As for the drawings, all of them are here on this thread.

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:14 pm

Wait -- it BREAKS DOWN?

Holy... um....

Well, that would explain why it looks like your "trailer" (for such I thought it was) was sitting on the ground instead of 10" in the air on wheels.

Damn.

Must. See. Plans.

Gerhard von Liebau · Post by **Gerhard von Liebau** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:46 pm

Effingham wrote:Must. See. Plans.

As he said... All of the plans are posted in the first post of the thread... There weren't a ton of drawings done. The details of the assembly can easily be recognized by tracking through the thread and seeing the construction details in the dozens of photos he took during the process of making the house.

It's a fabulous piece of work, and the two of us were able to tear it down from finished to nil in about eight hours. Putting it up is a different story, but with some tweaks Gaston has planned for next year it'll be a much easier process. Overall, the only hard parts about the build when you've only got two or three guys are holding the larger pieces (such as the 8x8' wall panels) in place while trying to secure them, or lifting the heavier objects (such as the second story rafters) onto the upstairs and putting them in place. With two people the process is rather slow and tiresome, three's manageable - and what we worked with typically throughout the build, and more than that would make it cake for a day's work from start to finish.

-Gerhard

Maeryk · Post by **Maeryk** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:50 pm

Effingham wrote:Wait -- it BREAKS DOWN?

Holy... um....

Well, that would explain why it looks like your "trailer" (for such I thought it was) was sitting on the ground instead of 10" in the air on wheels.

Damn.

Must. See. Plans.

As far as keeping things on site, Eff, it's 120$ a year, and they hide em way back in the fields. My friend just screws plywood over the doors and windows, but I know something as simple as a hasp lock and hook-eyes on the shutters has kept other people's stuff safe over the years.

Its' stored on the property, back behind trailer parking.. nobody even GOES there, let alone to squat. Plus they park em pretty snug with each other.

Donal Mac Ruiseart · Post by **Donal Mac Ruiseart** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:47 am

Considering that the first floor is almost totally open, how do you secure it against weather, like rain blowing in? It seems that it would be very vulnerable if the open side is to windward.

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:42 am

Donal Mac Ruiseart wrote:Considering that the first floor is almost totally open, how do you secure it against weather, like rain blowing in? It seems that it would be very vulnerable if the open side is to windward.

We had a number of storms and there was very little rain on the floor. I will make shutters to put in the openings, but this year, we never needed to close it off. Upstairs I have curtains, but again, never needed to close them. When it rained, the floor got a little wet, but the upstairs table cloth was dry. The wood floor is heavily urethaned on both sides, so it can get a little wet and not suffer.
As for set up, the ideal crew would be 4. It can be done with 2, but as Gerhard pointed out, it gets a little tiring. Although the roof beams are not really very heavy. I can carry 2 of them one in each hand. But because they are nearly 14â€™ long, they are awkward to handle by yourself.
With a couple of corrections (A last minute misunderstanding with some of the fabrication help resulted in some wall panels being too long) and some tweaks, the house should easily go up in a day with a crew of 4.

Effingham,
As I posted and Gerhard pointed out, all the drawings I made for this are posted earlier on this thread. I didn't need complete "blueprints". However if you have any specific questions, I will be glad to share what I did.

Guy Dawkins · Post by **Guy Dawkins** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:09 am

Murdock wrote:wow

my camp sucks

My camp is now siting in a corner and crying.

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:27 am

Well. Who the fuck wants to camp in something as measly as a canvas pavilion now?

Steve

SyrTheo · Post by **SyrTheo** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:49 am

Totally and completely astounding Sir!

So, what would you do to make a Longhall in the same vein as this house?

Cheers, EikBrandr

Snaebjorn Hakonarson · Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:03 pm

SyrTheo wrote:Totally and completely astounding Sir!

So, what would you do to make a Longhall in the same vein as this house?

Cheers, EikBrandr

Ooo! Good question!

Yes Chris. How would you make a longhall like this? *grins*

bigfredb · Post by **bigfredb** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:42 pm

SyrTheo wrote:Totally and completely astounding Sir!

So, what would you do to make a Longhall in the same vein as this house?

Cheers, EikBrandr

Sounds like a challenge . . .

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:51 pm

There are numerous manufacturers these days of artificial thatched roof shingles.

Endureed is one.

I would think it would be relatively easy to make one.

Would be cool to make out out of a shipping container and then just haul it on a flat-bed truck.

Steve

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:10 am

I helped a friend design a Viking house a number of years ago. He started it, then quit and never went back to it. I was disappointed as I thought it was going to be very cool. Being involved with many amusement park projects, I have samples of various "fake" building materials, one was thatching. It was going to be sewn to canvas and using a rope edge, worked into a "C" channel strip on the main rafters. Much like an RV awning.

Tracy Justus · Post by **Tracy Justus** » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:52 am

The casa is as splendid as I hoped it would be. I have a question: how are the floor panels connected to each other, and how are the walls connected to the floor?

Tracy

Glaukos the Athenian · Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:07 am

Holy smokes...

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:42 pm

It's kind of annoying when some people camp better than I live.

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:00 pm

lol Eff.

Benedek · Post by **Benedek** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:02 pm

Effingham wrote:It's kind of annoying when some people camp better than I live.

It's a summer house, in no way is that camping.....it's much more awesome than that.

Rayner · Post by **Rayner** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:05 pm

It's kind of annoying when some people camp better than I live.

This

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:26 pm

Benedek wrote:
Effingham wrote:It's kind of annoying when some people camp better than I live.

It's a summer house, in no way is that camping.....it's much more awesome than that.

That was precisely the idea I had when I built it. That is what it felt like to wake up, look past my feet and see that lake in the morning sun. (which rises behind the house, so as not to wake you too early.)

To raise money for Casa Bardicci, I was considering, at next Pennsic, auctioning off (Or perhaps a raffle) a romantic evening for two in the house with a dinner and breakfast. How does this sound to folks?

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:34 pm

Tracy Justus wrote:The casa is as splendid as I hoped it would be. I have a question: how are the floor panels connected to each other, and how are the walls connected to the floor?

Tracy

The floor is "free floating" over a steel sub frame and the walls attach to the 4x4 uprights. These 4x4 upright are bolted into the sub frame.

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:39 pm

Mr. Gilman, you live the good life. Hat's off to you.

Best,

John

Robert of Canterbury · Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:40 am

Chris Gilman wrote:
To raise money for Casa Bardicci, I was considering, at next Pennsic, auctioning off (Or perhaps a raffle) a romantic evening for two in the house with a dinner and breakfast. How does this sound to folks?

Great Idea, but with the number of potential interested parties, you might be better with a /raffle rather than an auction. 1-2k tickets at $1 each?
You could also set it up well in advance, flogging them online.
You'd sell a shitload.
The only downside is the transactional administration cost.

Alissenda · Post by **Alissenda** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:28 am

Robert of Canterbury wrote:
Chris Gilman wrote:
To raise money for Casa Bardicci, I was considering, at next Pennsic, auctioning off (Or perhaps a raffle) a romantic evening for two in the house with a dinner and breakfast. How does this sound to folks?

Sounds fabulous! Whether you do it as an auction or a raffle, I'm sure it could raise quite a bit of money. I know I, for one, have been imagining waking up to that glorious lake view with my husband and 'taking coffee on the loggia', even if it is a decidedly New World beverage. You've built something that just inspires dreams. Thank you so much for sharing the process and the photos.

I was sorry to hear of your injury assembling the Casa, Chris, and hope you're better now.

Warm regards,
Alissenda

Karen Larsdatter · Post by **Karen Larsdatter** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:09 pm

Robert of Canterbury wrote:Great Idea, but with the number of potential interested parties, you might be better with a /raffle rather than an auction. 1-2k tickets at $1 each?
You could also set it up well in advance, flogging them online.
You'd sell a shitload.
The only downside is the transactional administration cost.

And, er, Pennsylvania's laws on raffles.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:58 pm

in re reading this thread

"Murdock wrote:
wow

my camp sucks"

"My camp is now siting in a corner and crying. ""

I must add that i do believe that is nicer than my house and possibly bigger

Proxus · Post by **Proxus** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:07 pm

I just made my first mortgage payment of $2000 on a 3 bed one story home in Lakewood.

I feel like such a fool, I am depressed beyond expression.

Any plans to bring this to GWW this year to work out those tweaks and kinks Chris?

Crying with envy.

I salute you sir....well done.

Chris Gilman · Post by **Chris Gilman** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:31 pm

Karen Larsdatter wrote:
Robert of Canterbury wrote:Great Idea, but with the number of potential interested parties, you might be better with a /raffle rather than an auction. 1-2k tickets at $1 each?
You could also set it up well in advance, flogging them online.
You'd sell a shitload.
The only downside is the transactional administration cost.
And, er, Pennsylvania's laws on raffles.

I should have figured that, given the states wacky liquor laws...

Well perhaps something else.

As for GWW, I don't think so, I think this is a Casa Bardicci, Pennsic house. I don't see it looking as good anywhere else.

I was asked if I would be willing to host/ teach a Pennsic class on how to build such things, but I not sure what I could teach, as there is so much going on with the techniques in the house, I wouldn't know where to start and what people would be able to do "at home".