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Alas, sometimes the obvious escapes you. For years now, I have lamented that my Knottwolf kettle hat simply does not fit with the landsknecht kit I have and the cost of a good burgonet would cost far too much than my wife would ever allow though piecemeal purchases are possible.

And so, I have decided to build a kit around my helmet instead of replacing it! I can do soft bits myself (hooray sewing skillz!). I'm open to timeframe, location, style. I would love to portray something not in overabundance. Any suggestions?

The Helm in Question:
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Late 13th or 14th century.

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Looks like you are a Scot . . .

OK, so lets start the broken record . . . :shock:

Surcoats/Tunics, braes, chausses, turnshoes, patens . . .

For fighting, toss in some maille, maybe an Aketon . . .

Voila!!
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Hi,
For some 14th century inspiration try here.
See also Kristoffer and the rest of the site.
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Gethin,

That small slide show is really cool. Love the footman look going on in there.
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Post by InsaneIrish »

Who says the kettle hat isn't period for Landsknechts?

Granted, a riveted Kettle may not be common. But, I know of atleast one illustration of Swiss soldiers in Kettle hats.



You might also think of making a pizza hat and just putting that over your kettle. That brim would work great to keep the had flat. :)
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I've actually been working on a flat hat to go over the kettle, but it comes out looking more like a sopapilla than a pizza ;) Perhaps I need to look harder but I've simply not seen reference to landsknechts wearing a kettle. Still, I think I would enjoy having a kit pre-16th century for when not fighting melee. My landsknecht kit is great for melee (90% of all blows I recieve are on the head, afterall) but lacking in armor for the up close, toe to toe singles.
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lochinvar76 wrote:I've actually been working on a flat hat to go over the kettle, but it comes out looking more like a sopapilla than a pizza ;) Perhaps I need to look harder but I've simply not seen reference to landsknechts wearing a kettle. Still, I think I would enjoy having a kit pre-16th century for when not fighting melee. My landsknecht kit is great for melee (90% of all blows I recieve are on the head, afterall) but lacking in armor for the up close, toe to toe singles.


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Lots of Kettle hats, Kettle hats with eye slots, Burgundian Kettle hats, sallets, et al.

Now, none seem to be riveted, but, considering the scavanger nature of the Landsknecht, I would not consider it implausible. Especially if a flat hat were worn over it. A cevelleire/pothelm under a hat is pretty documentable.

Also, Swiss soldiers by Dolstein:

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Now, I have not seen any kettle hats on Landsknechts wearing Rocks.
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First, hide or replace that smurf blubber. ;)

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Derian le Breton wrote:First, hide or replace that smurf blubber. ;)

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Smurf Blubber LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by lochinvar76 »

It smelled like Smurfette at first, but now after all these years... baby smurf.

Actually, part of my goal for this year is to get a working, period liner for the helmet. So that'll be taken care of :wink:
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