Aventail "Alternatives"

An area for discussing methods for achieving or approximating a more authentic re-creation, for armour, soft kit, equipment, ...

Moderator: Glen K

Post Reply
boris_
Archive Member
Posts: 1305
Joined: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:30 am
Location: Barony of Roaring Wastes, Midrealm

Aventail "Alternatives"

Post by boris_ »

I learned (to my slight disappointment) that people in period did not attach aventails or drapes to Barbutes. Is there an alternative to get the same "look" (or mail across the shoulders, and (for extra points) over the neck)?
I know a coif is one option, but thats not my first choice for SCA.
My persona, and armor, are 15th century Italian.
Here is a few pics of the helm http://imgur.com/a/TLkcS#0
Thanks in advance
Paul the Small wrote:The spirit is wiling, but the bank account is weak.
User avatar
Ernst
Archive Member
Posts: 8802
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Jackson,MS USA

Re: Aventail "Alternatives"

Post by Ernst »

Use a mail standard to cover the neck and shoulders.
ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
Steve S.
Archive Member
Posts: 13327
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Huntsville, AL
Contact:

Re: Aventail "Alternatives"

Post by Steve S. »

You could also make a leather coif for the dome of your head, and attach maille to the bottom edge of it to hang out from under your helmet if you would rather not have your entire head covered with maille.

Steve
losthelm
Archive Member
Posts: 12207
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2000 1:01 am
Location: albion NY half way between rochester/buffalo
Contact:

Re: Aventail "Alternatives"

Post by losthelm »

Does your helm have a linner?
Would mounting a short avaintail on the inside of your helm give you the look your after?

The other option is a mantle, much like the standard but without the last few inches.
It sort of looks like a tree skirt to me, and could be basted to an arming cap/hood.
Wilhelm Smydle in the SCA

My Ebay Listings
My ETSY
Konstantin the Red
Archive Member
Posts: 26713
Joined: Sun Oct 21, 2001 1:01 am
Location: Port Hueneme CA USA

Re: Aventail "Alternatives"

Post by Konstantin the Red »

Ernst wrote:Use a mail standard to cover the neck and shoulders.
This. And conceal a safety-gorget collar within -- I assume you're trying for neck protection. Doesn't have to be huge -- halfway out the shoulder is fine too.

Looks nice with a brigandine.
User avatar
Ernst
Archive Member
Posts: 8802
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Jackson,MS USA

Re: Aventail "Alternatives"

Post by Ernst »

Here's a 15th century sketch from Pisanello. Although it shows a kettle hat instead of a barbutte, I think it's as close to an "aventail" look as you'd see.
Image
ferrum ferro acuitur et homo exacuit faciem amici sui
Post Reply