Sword Belt fittings

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Thu May 04, 2006 10:25 am

I'm lokin at tomb effigies and i can't get a real good view of the side of the belt in the 14th.

How is the sword and or dagger attached to the belt?

Is it on hooks? Through the belt? a seperate belt? i can't tell.

This nice fella posted these pics on FS
[img]http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d199/drustynail/Scabbard%20Strap/100_4832.jpg[/img]

then there is this off of Christian Fletcher's
[img]http://www.christianfletcher.com/Catalog/Belts/matatarmsbelt3.JPG[/img]

Then the one off of Albion

but none of em look like the stuff off of the effigies?

Me am confused....

even more than normal

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Thu May 04, 2006 2:38 pm

been looking and looking found just a couple pics that you can kinda see the sheath that are post 1340's.

[img]http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery/albums/album43/abergavenny2.sized.jpg[/img]

It looks like there is a loop with a d ring attached to another loop around the sheath.

[img]http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery/albums/album43/Gano_di_Fazio_Monumento_da_Ranieri_del_Porrina.jpg[/img]

this is the one the sheath from Albion is based off of i think.

[img]http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery/album43/Sir_John_and_Aleyne_de_Creke_c_1340_5_at_Westley_Waterless_Cambridgeshire_England?full=1[/img]

John de Creke's seesm simple enough

Can anyone get a close up of this one's belt fiting?
[img]http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/gallery/albums/album43/Sir_John_Foxley_his_Wives_1378_Bray_Church_Berkshire_England.jpg[/img]

Strongbow · Post by **Strongbow** » Thu May 04, 2006 3:38 pm

The last style.... the late 14th century one, where it appears that the scabbard is just stuck to the plaque belt.... there are at least a couple surviving fittings that seem to indicate that a hook or loop on the belt connects to a hook or loop on the scabbard.

I think the idea is that the scabbard can easily be removed from the belt to place on a saddle, or to discard for combat