Covered Armour

FrauHirsch · Post by **FrauHirsch** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:38 pm

Sir Roland's covered Landsknect armor is also very nice.

RenJunkie · Post by **RenJunkie** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:30 am

That's nice, PI. How well does it deaden the blows?

Christopher

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:34 pm

Ok, so I have sent Jestyr my pictures for his write-up but wanted to share them here as well. I'll start with my leg armour.

I wear soccer shin guard and my knees are a pair of aluminum hinged knee braces with a spring steel cop attached. hardened leather pieces stitched above & below the cop.

My braise cover my compression shorts and jock. I wear linen chausses over my armour. The linen leg wraps also help hold my knees in place.

Covered cleats on the feet.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:39 pm

For my thighs I have made a linen skirt.

The upper portion is quilted with cotton. The bottom portion has channels sewn that hold foam strips. It ties at the waist.

If you look close at the tie, you will see leather patches sewn on with grommets in them. This is where I attach my chausses. I have found it pulls much less when fighting on my knees than when I tie then on my braise.

Monkey butt.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:44 pm

For my body I wear a padded linen vest. It also has channels that can hold foam strips or stainless splints for proper kidney protection. It breaths very well under the maille.

My vambraces are plastic (House of the Wolf) with low profile stainless cops from Windrose.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:46 pm

Throw on your tunic & favorite suit of maille, mine being welded stainless from Master Knuut..

It is the little things like a nice secondary or pouch that makes your kit go the extra distance.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:49 pm

Add the helm and away you go!

Uric

Baron Alejandro · Post by **Baron Alejandro** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:02 am

I <i>really</i> need to take some pictures. I've got to put my breastplate back together on Sunday (bloody barbaric calontiri), so maybe I'll do that then.

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:00 am

I need to take photos myself. BA and Hjalmr have offered to get me photos as well. Once I get them all in, I'll add an appendix.

Thorvald Weretiger · Post by **Thorvald Weretiger** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 9:03 am

For the last 8 months or so ive used a roller hockey girdle and catchers knee n shin pads. yes, it covers my knee, it passes inspection. the girdle covers the hips and inner n outer thigh beautifully without sacrificing mobility and even has a good thick pad down my tail bone for those damn ass wraps coughDukeSirBrannoscough I throw my horrid and soon to be replaced plaid pants over them and away i go. my only problem is having to put a belt around the girdle so it stays in place properly. my new legs are going on a belt n suspender kit from the local military surplus store. ill work on gettin some pics up of my soon to be old legs.

SphinxGI · Post by **SphinxGI** » Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:41 am

This was just my first attempt ,

(me, left)

The underneath was just a crappy plates...

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:44 am

Welcome and well come, SpinxGI.

Swete · Post by **Swete** » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:06 pm

Lookin nice SpinxGi! That is what is great about hidden armour: it can look like crap, but when covered it is AWESOME!

Thomas MacFinn · Post by **Thomas MacFinn** » Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:06 pm

Worth a

for the new guys.

I personally am a fan of covered armor where the covering is part of the armor (for example, Sir Vitus' coat of plates and thigh armor below) instead of something you can take off when "its only a practice", etc.

hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:30 pm

Here's my hidden armor:

From head to toe, that's:

Zweihammer Armory Valsgarde 6 kit
Therion Arms butted aventail
Zoombang Max Coverage shirt
Stainless elbow cops laced onto volleyball elbow pads
Oil-tanned leather bracers with Kydex splints and 2mm funfoam padding
Adidas lacrosse gloves (with added kydex plate over thumb web/joint area)
Hardened leather clamshells
Zoombang Max Coverage shorts
Nutty Buddy
Stainless knees laced onto volleyball knee pads
Cheap soccer shin guards

No lie, the Zoombang stuff is KEY to doing a hidden armor kit. I mean, you can screw around with pickle barrels and Kydex all you want, but it's a lot quicker and easier to just throw $300 at Zoombang and be done. The real bonus here is that I could easily switch from Viking to Crusader, or Roman, or Saxon, or really any early-period non-plate persona just by switching helmets and clothing.

Scott4Now · Post by **Scott4Now** » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:41 pm

Thanks to one and all for all of your great suggestions and tips. Sir Blackoak thank you particularly I really like your vest I'll be using the pocket idea in my linen cotun the knee brace as the base to your legs is genius. I have two creaky knees and the braces will make a lot of difference for me. It just never accured to me to do that. I've made some design changes to my legs because of your idea with the brace I'll use a 16g steel knee and elbow with a lame top and bottom for articulation and steel splinted 9-10 oz leather built around hinged knee braces for my chausses and greaves and a volleyball elbow pad same steel cops and lames and splinted leather for my arms. I'm going to attach a pair of simple 16g spaulders to the cotun.

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:00 am

hivemind wrote:Here's my hidden armor:

. . .

No lie, the Zoombang stuff is KEY to doing a hidden armor kit. I mean, you can screw around with pickle barrels and Kydex all you want, but it's a lot quicker and easier to just throw $300 at Zoombang and be done. The real bonus here is that I could easily switch from Viking to Crusader, or Roman, or Saxon, or really any early-period non-plate persona just by switching helmets and clothing.

He'll have to bring along a rack of personae to set at the entrance to his tent...

Of course, standing there singing "Who do you want to be to-day?/Who do you want to be? . . . Do you wanna be someone just like on TV (History Channel)?" to yourself is wayyyy OOP music style. Same goes for playing it on your portable disc player-beehead-thingy. Ever notice just how much some of those things look like the heads of giant, robot bees?

joleicia · Post by **joleicia** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:24 pm

This forum/link contains many patterns that may also help people in this topic.

http://www.armourarchive.org/patterns/

bigfredb · Post by **bigfredb** » Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:01 pm

I want to look like this!

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:41 am

bigfredb wrote:

I want to look like this!

I agree he looks great... and it is a wonderful example of covered armour!

With the exception of a well-shaped bascinet and legs (and gauntlets), everything is hidden by a lovely jupon.

Adrielle Kerrec · Post by **Adrielle Kerrec** » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:53 pm

Under his Jupon his Majesty wears a full stainless breast plate, he also wears 5 piece elbows on leather upper and lowers.

bigfredb · Post by **bigfredb** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:49 am

Adrielle Kerrec wrote:Under his Jupon his Majesty wears a full stainless breast plate, he also wears 5 piece elbows on leather upper and lowers.

Good to know

Jestyr · Post by **Jestyr** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:44 pm

Adrielle Kerrec wrote:Under his Jupon his Majesty wears a full stainless breast plate, he also wears 5 piece elbows on leather upper and lowers.

Please know that my response that it was an excellent example of covered armour was not to suggest that what he was covering was inauthentic. His Majesty looks exceptional, as has every other iteration of his kit that I have seen. The jupons you have made are absolutely stunning. In fact, when I am working with fighters looking to improve their kits, I have a few photos of Nigel that I show as examples.

That said, the point of the entire article is that what is covered is less relevant than the finished product. For instance, if he was wearing a zoombang shirt and dark victory arms, the audience would not know and his appearance would still be exceptional. Blackoak is a wonderful example of that; the armour he wears under his garb and mail is clearly in-authentic, but the audience is unaware of that and is instead treated to an excellent kit. And while there is significant merit to having an authentic kit in all aspects, the person who has that is not the primary intended audience of this article.

Adrielle Kerrec · Post by **Adrielle Kerrec** » Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:29 pm

No worries, I didn't take offence. I am hoping he will post pics of his early period kit as it is an example of what you are discussing. Very economical kit that is modern materials fully covered so as to appear medieval

barcuk · Post by **barcuk** » Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:24 am

GWW 2013

Kerberus · Post by **Kerberus** » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:32 am

Bumping this for reference later.

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