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Bob H wrote:Fire really adds a lot to the experience. I've participated in <a href="http://www.martinsstation.com/raid.shtml">The Raid on Martin's Station</a>, which is held at and sponsored by a Virginia State Park. Realize that park rangers have to assure the safety of generally the lowest common denominator of American society - the tourist - and they can still make this happen. We have real guns, too, and shoot them at each other (using blank loads).

The SCA is going to have to change its attitude before this kind of fun can happen, and I don't see that ever happening.


You know as well as I do that neither one of us is going to trust that every single one of the 1500 meatheads on the other side of the battle lines actually remembered to remove the ramrod from the barrel.
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Urdok wrote:Ok, spill it- how'd you pull this off?


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carlyle wrote:... though my wife (who is there currently with the children to visit her parents over the summer holiday) tells me that the streets of Minsk are filled with beautiful young women in their summer finest :D!... AoC


Oh, say... Alfred old chum, pal, buddy...

I've been meaning to ask.... Does your wife have a seeester?

Maeryk wrote:You know as well as I do that neither one of us is going to trust that every single one of the 1500 meatheads on the other side of the battle lines actually remembered to remove the ramrod from the barrel.


That's why ramrods aren't allowed on the field, and firearms are inspected first to make sure there are none.

The charges aren't packed down... they're settled in. A charge is poured down the barrel, and the re-enactor typically "bumps" the butt of the weapon on the ground to "seat" the gunpowder. If you watch the film Gettysburg, you'll actually see a couple of the Confederate re-enactors do that (out of habit!) during the Alabama assault on Little Round Top.

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Effingham wrote:Oh, say... Alfred old chum, pal, buddy...

I've been meaning to ask.... Does your wife have a seeester?

Sure. She lives with us. Care to guess which is which?

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Here's another one of them with my daughter:

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The only problem, Eff, is that her boyfriend is about 6-4 and weighs a good 265. I'd squire him in a second, if only he was interested in SCA fighting ;)... AoC
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Well, I've met your wife. ;)

Hmmm...

Maybe if you mentioned I'm a good Orthodox boy? ;)

The boyfriend sounds a bit much for me to take on. The only thing I may have on him is Russophilia (and the Pravoslav thing)....

Damned cute family, though. The daughter's a peach. Clearly takes after her mom. :twisted:
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Maeryk wrote:
Bob H wrote:Fire really adds a lot to the experience. I've participated in <a href="http://www.martinsstation.com/raid.shtml">The Raid on Martin's Station</a>, which is held at and sponsored by a Virginia State Park. Realize that park rangers have to assure the safety of generally the lowest common denominator of American society - the tourist - and they can still make this happen. We have real guns, too, and shoot them at each other (using blank loads).

The SCA is going to have to change its attitude before this kind of fun can happen, and I don't see that ever happening.


You know as well as I do that neither one of us is going to trust that every single one of the 1500 meatheads on the other side of the battle lines actually remembered to remove the ramrod from the barrel.


George Woodbridge one of the founders and leading lights of the Brigades of the American Revolution (and a cartoonist for Mad) was scavenging a field after a re-enactment and found a bunch of paper wrapped cartridge litter that had round ball in the end - some asshat had been using live rounds and holding the end to keep the bal from running down the barrel.
From what I am told the carefull inspection of everyones cartouche pouches found the offender who was expelled from the event, his regiment, the brigade, and was soundly advised to leave site immediately.

And a drummer boy in the 5th NY (civil war re-enactors) had a piece of a cork & metal tampion go through his drumhead and stop on the wall.

There are lots of assholes in the world.
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mordreth wrote:
Maeryk wrote:
Bob H wrote:Fire really adds a lot to the experience. I've participated in <a href="http://www.martinsstation.com/raid.shtml">The Raid on Martin's Station</a>, which is held at and sponsored by a Virginia State Park. Realize that park rangers have to assure the safety of generally the lowest common denominator of American society - the tourist - and they can still make this happen. We have real guns, too, and shoot them at each other (using blank loads).

The SCA is going to have to change its attitude before this kind of fun can happen, and I don't see that ever happening.


You know as well as I do that neither one of us is going to trust that every single one of the 1500 meatheads on the other side of the battle lines actually remembered to remove the ramrod from the barrel.


George Woodbridge one of the founders and leading lights of the Brigades of the American Revolution (and a cartoonist for Mad) was scavenging a field after a re-enactment and found a bunch of paper wrapped cartridge litter that had round ball in the end - some asshat had been using live rounds and holding the end to keep the bal from running down the barrel.
From what I am told the carefull inspection of everyones cartouche pouches found the offender who was expelled from the event, his regiment, the brigade, and was soundly advised to leave site immediately.

And a drummer boy in the 5th NY (civil war re-enactors) had a piece of a cork & metal tampion go through his drumhead and stop on the wall.

There are lots of assholes in the world.


Expelled hell. GD makes me angry. Should have called police sherriff etc.. and DA charged with attempted murder or ADW....granted hard to prove but that is no different than the idiot shootin a loaded regular gun in a crowd and claiming he did not want to hurt anyone. Oh wait that is exactly what he did!!!! WHY OW WHY DID LEO not get involved? This guy may just decide it is ok to do again to someone else....ala Johnny Cash song ring a bell?
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well, if your balls are sized right, they shouldn't just "run down" the barrel, and unless he actually DID get a ball in there somehow, he didn't fire a "loaded gun" at anyone.

Still, it was stupidity.
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Proxus wrote:Should have called police sherriff etc.. and DA charged with attempted murder or ADW....granted hard to prove but that is no different than the idiot shootin a loaded regular gun in a crowd and claiming he did not want to hurt anyone. Oh wait that is exactly what he did!!!! WHY OW WHY DID LEO not get involved? This guy may just decide it is ok to do again to someone else....ala Johnny Cash song ring a bell?



You do not want that kind of official overview and interest in the activity -- the media would get involved (that kind of item in a police blotter is bound to become a full article in the local paper, and you KNOW the national press would pick that kind of thing up, as weird people doing dangerous things is interesting).

Seriously.

Think about it.
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We do this right here in the US....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyItD0W7Si0


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Proxus wrote:
mordreth wrote:
Maeryk wrote:
Bob H wrote:Fire really adds a lot to the experience. I've participated in <a href="http://www.martinsstation.com/raid.shtml">The Raid on Martin's Station</a>, which is held at and sponsored by a Virginia State Park. Realize that park rangers have to assure the safety of generally the lowest common denominator of American society - the tourist - and they can still make this happen. We have real guns, too, and shoot them at each other (using blank loads).

The SCA is going to have to change its attitude before this kind of fun can happen, and I don't see that ever happening.


You know as well as I do that neither one of us is going to trust that every single one of the 1500 meatheads on the other side of the battle lines actually remembered to remove the ramrod from the barrel.


George Woodbridge one of the founders and leading lights of the Brigades of the American Revolution (and a cartoonist for Mad) was scavenging a field after a re-enactment and found a bunch of paper wrapped cartridge litter that had round ball in the end - some asshat had been using live rounds and holding the end to keep the bal from running down the barrel.
From what I am told the carefull inspection of everyones cartouche pouches found the offender who was expelled from the event, his regiment, the brigade, and was soundly advised to leave site immediately.

And a drummer boy in the 5th NY (civil war re-enactors) had a piece of a cork & metal tampion go through his drumhead and stop on the wall.

There are lots of assholes in the world.


Expelled hell. GD makes me angry. Should have called police sherriff etc.. and DA charged with attempted murder or ADW....granted hard to prove but that is no different than the idiot shootin a loaded regular gun in a crowd and claiming he did not want to hurt anyone. Oh wait that is exactly what he did!!!! WHY OW WHY DID LEO not get involved? This guy may just decide it is ok to do again to someone else....ala Johnny Cash song ring a bell?


Impossible to prove, maybe just maybe reckless endangerment - the way it was handled made very sure that 18th century reenactors know just how seriously they are permanently shunned for screwing with weapons.

There was also a moron who fired a loaded revolver at a Gettysburgh re-enactment about five or six years ago That one I believe went to the authorities.
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I was there for that one...

Guy was a French national portraying a confederate and after the investigation....they basically just let him fly back home.
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