Gleann Abhann Fall Crown List

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:25 am

kaiÃ¶ wrote:
broinnfinn wrote:
Ulrich wrote:Caedmon - I thought you'd be fighting as well

Radu - WTF, he's holding out the First King and Queen of the Kingdom? did you get a reason (I realize and respect that the crown doesn't have to give a reason - but my curiosity has a hold of me)

Given the situation -

Aengus and Caillan in the finals

THL John Widcomb as the Dark horse.

-Ulrich

Their Majesties did send us an email detailing Their reasons. I think it would be best if that question were directed to Their Majesties.

As always, we acknowledge the prerogative of the Crown to determine the competitors of Their list. Had we felt we were unable to fulfill the demands of the list, we would not have submitted a letter. However, in this case, Their Majesties disagreed, as is Their Right. They indicated a desire that we should wait until the Spring, and so we shall.

Broinnfinn
Duchess Gleann Abhann

wow... i am speechless. Deny the right to fighters to enter a Crown Tourney? That's ludicrous. Why don't you just hand it over to your friend right away and be done with it.
This is the kind of shit that usually happens in Iran, or Africa. Terrible. Absolutely terrible.

EDIT:
Broinnfinn: NO it is NOT their right to deny you to compete.

I just came back from a little trip, and realized that this enfuriates me more than I thought. This is a move straight from Khamenei's playbook. "Yeah you can rule, but only if what you think is best is the same as what I think is best". American troops are out fighting exactly so this kind of shit doesn't happen. Cronyism is wrong, it makes a farce of the whole "King by Right of Arms" deal.

Horrendous. Simply horrendous.

What is horrendous is the comparison you have made. Not only does it show your ignorance of the prerogative of the Crown in THEIR Crown List, but you cast a slight on the intention of the Crown. Cronyism? :roll:

I respect your service, but our soldiers are not dying to dictate rules in a hobby, and I think you belittle those that are serving by such a comparison. I think you need to take a step back and a deep breath before slighting the intentions of people you don't know and the traditions of the SCA.

Uric

broinnfinn · Post by **broinnfinn** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:02 am

Blackoak wrote:What is horrendous is the comparison you have made. Not only does it show your ignorance of the prerogative of the Crown in THEIR Crown List, but you cast a slight on the intention of the Crown. Cronyism?

I respect your service, but our soldiers are not dying to dictate rules in a hobby, and I think you belittle those that are serving by such a comparison. I think you need to take a step back and a deep breath before slighting the intentions of people you don't know and the traditions of the SCA.

Uric

I would request respectfully that we focus the remainder of the discussion in this thread on the upcoming Gleann Abhann list, and those competitors that are actually competing. I really look forward to these discussions for all the Kingdoms, and I know others get a great deal of enjoyment from them.

Our participation, or non-participation, in this list is truly a matter between TRM Gleann Abhann and ourselves. We have been in Their same position three times prior, and we have respect for the rights of the Throne. Please do not allow dissent to mar this glorious occasion.

And Caedmon, I think you seeded James too low. :wink:

Bri.

ThorvaldR Skegglauss · Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:46 am

Go Uric!!!

I have absolutely no idea on any of the contestants in this list but I love Blackoak's kit. :lol:

regards
Thorvaldr

Violen · Post by **Violen** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:43 pm

can we get some blackoak flags to wave from the bleachers?

Caedmon · Post by **Caedmon** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:03 pm

Thorvaldr Skegglauss wrote:Go Uric!!!

I have absolutely no idea on any of the contestants in this list but I love Blackoak's kit.

regards
Thorvaldr

ok - the rundown

Count Aengus: Very strong lefty with round shield. If he gets in a rhythm he can explode in a very scary offensive flurry of blows.

Viscount Caillin: Small but very quick. Good feints, thrusts and lateral movement. Can come from unusual angles.

Sir Uric: maybe the smallest guy in the list, but very solid defense, good shot selection, and can make up for height with Michael Jordon leaps to hit you from above.

Sir Ashi: GA's finest florentine fighter. VERY fast hand speed with a solid mobile defense when pressed.

Sir Jon: 6'9' with long sword and a big center grip. good face thrusts from orbit. Maintains range well. Getting close can just get you scorpion wrapped.

Sir James: voted most likely to break your femur. Solid defense with center grip kite. very fast and powerful combos. Good off-side shots and j-hooks.

Baron Grimbaldus: Ok- so there is a fighter smaller than Uric in the list, but if you like Sir Uric's kit, you ought to love Grim's - head to toe to finger mail with a great crusader helm. Unfortunately all that weight will slow him down a tad.

Baron Fergus: solid fighter with a round shield.

THL John: General of the GA army, he's built like a middle linebacker. Fierce attack, but maybe some holes in the defense.

Lord Settimio: Roman kit. Strong guy with pretty solid offense and defense. If I had to put a bet on someone with really long odds just because there was a small chance I'd make a butt-ton of money, it would be him. My dark horse longshot for this tourney.

Lord Randal: big guy, but still learning the ropes. This is his first crown. I like him and will be very happy if he wins a fight.

Lord Inago: don't know him well. small guy. not sure how long he has been fighting

Caedmon

I am the dimmest!

miriel · Post by **miriel** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:43 pm

holyone wrote:Kinda surprising alot of the usual suspects are not in this time around,kinda figured with GA 5th year rolling up we'd have seen more in it.

James

Eh, with the new little Zwang on the way in April we thought it would be best to wait.

Vebrand · Post by **Vebrand** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:22 pm

miriel wrote:
Eh, with the new little Zwang on the way in April we thought it would be best to wait.

Congrats, as long as the little Zwang doesn't look like the big Zwang :wink:

Vebrand

Marvin · Post by **Marvin** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:38 pm

This is going to be a lot of fun to watch.

I've fought pickups with Inago - he's no slouch. Fairly quick with a good inside game. He's not going to win it, but he's plenty good enough to knock someone out or down to the loser's bracket.

I'm with Bri - If I were a bookie there's no way in hell I'd give you 8-1 on James.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:19 pm

Caedmon wrote:
Thorvaldr Skegglauss wrote:Go Uric!!!

I have absolutely no idea on any of the contestants in this list but I love Blackoak's kit.

regards
Thorvaldr

ok - the rundown

Count Aengus: Very strong lefty with round shield. If he gets in a rhythm he can explode in a very scary offensive flurry of blows.

Viscount Caillin: Small but very quick. Good feints, thrusts and lateral movement. Can come from unusual angles.

Sir Uric: maybe the smallest guy in the list, but very solid defense, good shot selection, and can make up for height with Michael Jordon leaps to hit you from above.

Sir Ashi: GA's finest florentine fighter. VERY fast hand speed with a solid mobile defense when pressed.

Sir Jon: 6'9' with long sword and a big center grip. good face thrusts from orbit. Maintains range well. Getting close can just get you scorpion wrapped.

Sir James: voted most likely to break your femur. Solid defense with center grip kite. very fast and powerful combos. Good off-side shots and j-hooks.

Baron Grimbaldus: Ok- so there is a fighter smaller than Uric in the list, but if you like Sir Uric's kit, you ought to love Grim's - head to toe to finger mail with a great crusader helm. Unfortunately all that weight will slow him down a tad.

Baron Fergus: solid fighter with a round shield.

THL John: General of the GA army, he's built like a middle linebacker. Fierce attack, but maybe some holes in the defense.

Lord Settimio: Roman kit. Strong guy with pretty solid offense and defense. If I had to put a bet on someone with really long odds just because there was a small chance I'd make a butt-ton of money, it would be him. My dark horse longshot for this tourney.

Lord Randal: big guy, but still learning the ropes. This is his first crown. I like him and will be very happy if he wins a fight.

Lord Inago: don't know him well. small guy. not sure how long he has been fighting

Caedmon

I am the dimmest!

I will have you know that I am taller than Caillin, Inigo, and Grimbaldus. Trust me, I know who I am taller than. Its a short list.

Uric

Caedmon · Post by **Caedmon** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:49 pm

[quoteI will have you know that I am taller than Caillin, Inigo, and Grimbaldus. Trust me, I know who I am taller than. Its a short list.

Uric[/quote]

Grim - definately. Inago - ok. Caillin - even monkeys dream.

Caedmon

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:03 pm

Watch and see funny man. Watch and see.

Uric

John Widcombe · Post by **John Widcombe** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:34 am

I think this calls for a lineup.

Caillin, Inigo, Grimbaldus,Uric and Bri.

We can get Baroness Barbara to take a photo.

-John

Vebrand · Post by **Vebrand** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:44 am

John Widcombe wrote:I think this calls for a lineup.

Caillin, Inigo, Grimbaldus,Uric and Bri.

We can get Baroness Barbara to take a photo.

-John

Would Bri act as Dorthy with the others welcoming her to munchkin land :lol:

Vebrand
Ducking for cover

John Widcombe · Post by **John Widcombe** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:20 am

At least you didn't say spray tans and white overalls...

holyone · Post by **holyone** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:44 pm

Here I'll try with the lights down low

Dark apprentice dark apprentice dark apprentice

Marvin · Post by **Marvin** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:34 pm

Vebrand wrote:
John Widcombe wrote:I think this calls for a lineup.

Caillin, Inigo, Grimbaldus,Uric and Bri.

We can get Baroness Barbara to take a photo.

-John

Would Bri act as Dorthy with the others welcoming her to munchkin land

Vebrand
Ducking for cover

A bad squire might point out that you're not too far out of that class yourself.

You should be glad I'm a good squire.

broinnfinn · Post by **broinnfinn** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:54 pm

Vebrand wrote:
John Widcombe wrote:I think this calls for a lineup.

Caillin, Inigo, Grimbaldus,Uric and Bri.

We can get Baroness Barbara to take a photo.

-John

Would Bri act as Dorthy with the others welcoming her to munchkin land

Vebrand
Ducking for cover

Only if I get those Ruby Slippers.

Bri.

Gunthar · Post by **Gunthar** » Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:36 pm

Since it is only about three hours from my house I was hoping to be able to attend. But we are now in the midst of getting packed up to move to our new home so I can't spare the weekend. Good luck to you all and I'll congratulate the new Heirs at BAM.

DarkApprentice · Post by **DarkApprentice** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:36 pm

Hi everyone-

Sorry this is so late, I've been not so well lately (too many hot dogs), but here it is!

9-1 Sir Uric Blackoak- I think he has the best chances and he is a snappy dresser to boot!

13-1 Count Sir Angus Mac Owein- Angus has won this before, and can definitely win again. I don't think that his chances are as good as Blackoak's though.

15-1 Viscount Sir Caillin Macleod- Caillin hasn't won since GA was a principality, and would probably like to prove that he can do it now that GA has grown all the way up.

22-1 Sir James the Holy- He is still my evil opposite. I bet if he logged in here his name would be Light Angel or something like that.

27-1 Baron Grimbaldus Bacon- I still love that he comes from the family of Bacon. I love bacon and so does my dog. He seems to like me more when I am eating bacon, that's for sure.

30-1 Sir Jon the Tall- He is recently knighted (I think) and has something to prove. I am interested to see how the Jon vs John fight will come out. I bet that Jon will win.

35-1 THL John of Widcomb- I think that he will have a good showing, but isn't ready to win yet. If he beats Jon the Tall, I will give him much better odds next time.

42-1 Sir Ashikaga Hiromoto- he gets the fables 42-1 slot.

Over 50 to 1

-Baron Fergus O'Kelly
-Lord Settimio d' Olivio
-Lord Randal de Tancresleia
-Lord Inigo Lewis Domingo Montoya de Castile- Is this your name???? I am betting you had to make it this long so you could hide a Princess Bride reference in it. I will now change my name to Dark Indiana Jones Madmartigan Apprentice!

Enjoy!

DA

Caedmon · Post by **Caedmon** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:03 pm

[quote
22-1 Sir James the Holy- He is still my evil opposite. I bet if he logged in here his name would be Light Angel or something like that.

DA[/quote]

Close - he is on here as Holy One

Caedmon

Vebrand · Post by **Vebrand** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:11 pm

DA, First time I can recall looking at your odds and wanting to say, "what are you smoking". :wink:

and can I have some

I would take those odds on Ashi, Jon, Aengus, or James any day.

Vebrand

Marius Brittanicus · Post by **Marius Brittanicus** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:31 pm

From seeing the Dark One's odds..I personally think he was late posting because he just staggard out of a opium den....I personally think it be..no disrespect...between
Angus
Jon
Ashi
James
Caillin

my choice for the finals
Ashi and Angus...anyone give me odds on the twin trifecta?

Saritor · Post by **Saritor** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:46 pm

Vebrand wrote:DA, First time I can recall looking at your odds and wanting to say, "what are you smoking". and can I have some

I'll cover your bet if you've got a buck to put down on the Darkest One's Most Holy Nemesis.

Blackoak · Post by **Blackoak** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:34 pm

Well it looks like I need to kick some ass to keep you clowns from getting on DA. But that's ok, cause I was planning on doing that anyway. :twisted:

It should be a beautiful day with a bunch of really good fighters.

Uric

Rey · Post by **Rey** » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:52 pm

I've come to the Conclusion that Dark Apprentice IS Uric..

Rey

AvM · Post by **AvM** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:25 am

DarkApprentice wrote:30-1 Sir Jon the Tall- He is recently knighted

Jon the Tall? Bigjon on the AA?

Marius Brittanicus · Post by **Marius Brittanicus** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 3:55 am

that would be him...that is Sir Jon the Tall..Big Jon..big man..big heart ...great fighter ..great knight..and spiffy dresser..hard and soft kit

Caedmon · Post by **Caedmon** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:46 am

Marius Brittanicus wrote:that would be him...that is Sir Jon the Tall..Big Jon..big man..big heart ...great fighter ..great knight..and spiffy dresser..hard and soft kit

The confusion is that the man we know in Gleann Abhann as Sir Jon the Tall is on the archive as Bigjon, while the guy we know as Big John is on the archive as John Widcombe.

Caedmon

John Widcombe · Post by **John Widcombe** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:59 am

Caedmon wrote:
Marius Brittanicus wrote:that would be him...that is Sir Jon the Tall..Big Jon..big man..big heart ...great fighter ..great knight..and spiffy dresser..hard and soft kit

The confusion is that the man we know in Gleann Abhann as Sir Jon the Tall is on the archive as Bigjon, while the guy we know as Big John is on the archive as John Widcombe.

Caedmon

He used to be Big Jon to everyone north of I-20 and I had south of 20.

I guess I'm taking over the Niche.

Sweet!

-John

Marvin · Post by **Marvin** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:01 am

Caedmon wrote:
Marius Brittanicus wrote:that would be him...that is Sir Jon the Tall..Big Jon..big man..big heart ...great fighter ..great knight..and spiffy dresser..hard and soft kit

The confusion is that the man we know in Gleann Abhann as Sir Jon the Tall is on the archive as Bigjon, while the guy we know as Big John is on the archive as John Widcombe.

Caedmon

...and they're both in this list. Just to add to the confusion.

Ya know - if Uric was DA, that would explain a lot of stuff. Rey may be onto something here.

John Widcombe · Post by **John Widcombe** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:11 am

Marvin wrote:Ya know - if Uric was DA, that would explain a lot of stuff. Rey may be onto something here.

Have you noticed that they use the same font?

-John

broinnfinn · Post by **broinnfinn** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:19 am

John Widcombe wrote:
Marvin wrote:Ya know - if Uric was DA, that would explain a lot of stuff. Rey may be onto something here.

Have you noticed that they use the same font?

-John

Has anyone ever seen them standing together in one place?

Bri.

Roibeard MacNeill · Post by **Roibeard MacNeill** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:23 am

John Widcombe wrote:
Marvin wrote:Ya know - if Uric was DA, that would explain a lot of stuff. Rey may be onto something here.

Have you noticed that they use the same font?

-John

Damnit...you're right! :wink:

And come to think of it, Your Grace, I have never seen them in the same room at the same time...has DA finally been unmasked?!?!

This is going to be a great tourney...someday I will make it down to see one. My choices for top four are Sir Uric, Sir Jon, Count Aengus, and Viscount Caillin. As for Dark Horses, my choices are Sir James and THL John...

Bellringer · Post by **Bellringer** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:58 am

All I know is I am glad I donâ€™t have to figure out the odds on this list.
It will be fun to watch.

Vebrand · Post by **Vebrand** » Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:40 pm

Blackoak wrote:Well it looks like I need to kick some ass to keep you clowns from getting on DA. But that's ok, cause I was planning on doing that anyway.

It should be a beautiful day with a bunch of really good fighters.

Uric

I have a hard time with this one. Now if you said "I need to kick some shin because I can't reach any higher". Well then I would totally be there. :twisted:

Vebrand

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