period groin protection

[sha-ul]

ok this thread http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... p?t=107713 has me wondering what all was worn for groin protection in period, I know there were Maille skirts,& faulds, & the saddle provided protection for a mounted man, but was anything else worn?

[Cadfael_Mynnydd]

cod peices were required by english law for everyone over a certain status.

[sha-ul]

cod peices were required by english law for everyone over a certain status.

were these cloth, or metal, & any idea what time period?

[Cadfael_Mynnydd]

... metal for armor, the bigger the cod the higher the rank, I am thinking the 1400's but not sure, will find out hold on(gets out his BOOK of armor)... I was wrong. middle of the 16th cent.

[Giovanni_d'Alba]

As a general rule of thumb, codpieces refer to an article of clothing, not a piece of armor. Henry the Eighth, bless his randy soul, was the noted exception:



Now there's some serious protection for the royal jewels...

[herrhauptmann]

We were talking about that after business meeting the other day, someone mentioned he had syphilis and so was very VERY tender.
Any truth to the statement?

[Derian le Breton]

We were talking about that after business meeting the other day, someone mentioned he had syphilis and so was very VERY tender.
Any truth to the statement?

Most historians do not believe Henry VIII had syphilis. It's a modern myth. As I understand it the most damning bit of evidence is that while he did have an ulcer on his leg, he was not given the standard treatment of the time for syphilis (mercury).

-Derian.

[herrhauptmann]

Mercury? Drinking it? Injecting it? Bathing in it?
Well, it'll stop your syphilis, but it'll also stop other things, like breathing

[J.G.Elmslie]

Mercury? Drinking it? Injecting it? Bathing in it?
Well, it'll stop your syphilis, but it'll also stop other things, like breathing

I think I'd rather take the stopping breathing...

the tudor "cure" for syphilis, or "the french pox". (strange that. the french called it the English pox) included warmed up mercury and a 1/4inch bore syringe rammed up your urethra and injected with the stuff...


Henry's ulcer was actually caused in a joust, if I recall, and resulted in him becoming far less mobile than he was, and on the diet he had, ballooning to the obese figure most people imagine. its thought that part of the reason for the ulceration was likely that the tight garters of fashion were restricting bloodflow and not aiding healing.

[Cadfael_Mynnydd]

bray brayette cod peice front apendage are all of the names that stone gives for dick armor

[Roland Brokentooth]

Mercury? Drinking it? Injecting it? Bathing in it?
Well, it'll stop your syphilis, but it'll also stop other things, like breathing

I think I'd rather take the stopping breathing...

the tudor "cure" for syphilis, or "the french pox". (strange that. the french called it the English pox) included warmed up mercury and a 1/4inch bore syringe rammed up your urethra and injected with the stuff...


Henry's ulcer was actually caused in a joust, if I recall, and resulted in him becoming far less mobile than he was, and on the diet he had, ballooning to the obese figure most people imagine. its thought that part of the reason for the ulceration was likely that the tight garters of fashion were restricting bloodflow and not aiding healing.

OT a bit...

The guys with Louis and Clark took Mercury with them on their trip to the Pacific.

[Ewen MacSuibhne]

Mercury? Drinking it? Injecting it? Bathing in it?
Well, it'll stop your syphilis, but it'll also stop other things, like breathing

I think I'd rather take the stopping breathing...

the tudor "cure" for syphilis, or "the french pox". (strange that. the french called it the English pox) included warmed up mercury and a 1/4inch bore syringe rammed up your urethra and injected with the stuff...


Henry's ulcer was actually caused in a joust, if I recall, and resulted in him becoming far less mobile than he was, and on the diet he had, ballooning to the obese figure most people imagine. its thought that part of the reason for the ulceration was likely that the tight garters of fashion were restricting bloodflow and not aiding healing.

OT a bit...

The guys with Louis and Clark took Mercury with them on their trip to the Pacific.

Well rubbers weren't invented yet. Had to bring some some sort of protection. Thankfully rubbers are more compact. It's hard enough chatting up a girl in a bar without a bubbling crucible of mercury and a horse syringe.

[laevus]

... "the french pox". (strange that. the french called it the English pox)

IIRC, the naming of it popularly throughout Europe came from the fact that during the Italian Wars, the french army in southern Italy contracted many cases of it, and in their return to France when the campaign wasn't going well, they ended up spreading the disease pretty heavily, hence the french soldiers being seen in many countries as a carrier for the disease. Thus, the 'french sickness'.

Now of course, the French wouldn't like that, and though it's pure conjecture, they may have employed the good old standby defense of 'blame it on the sheep boffing English'.

[Tor Magnusson]

Wow, this thread has gone way off topic.....

[Konstantin the Red]

Most historians do not believe Henry VIII had syphilis. It's a modern myth. As I understand it the most damning bit of evidence is that while he did have an ulcer on his leg, he was not given the standard treatment of the time for syphilis (mercury).

It may have been a complication of diabetes instead. Over 45, puts on weight, impotence, ulceration in an extremity...

[zachos]

ok this thread http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... p?t=107713 has me wondering what all was worn for groin protection in period, I know there were Maille skirts,& faulds, & the saddle provided protection for a mounted man, but was anything else worn?

Interestingly, there is a lot written of how the mercenaries of the time stuffed their codpieces (fabric attached to hose) with all sorts of stuff like money or fruit. No doubt this had some protective quality as well as the obvious benefit of being extremely fashionable.

[sha-ul]

just an fyi, I did an image search for brayette, and I ended up at Blankenshields' site... I may be forever scarred