REAL Hard Steel Videos here :)

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 4:48 pm

Just some videos I finally put up for you guys to see. Camera work was done by are very own Armourereric

Just a fighter practice at the Balboa Park,Sandiego Ca.USA
click on the link for videos

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Xanthier · Post by **Xanthier** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 4:54 pm

Can't get in..

Just get.. "This file is hosted by Tripod, a LycosÂ®Network Site, and is not available for download."

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 4:55 pm

fixed

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Rainald · Post by **Rainald** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 5:10 pm

Cool, thanks. What did you use to transfer from the video camera to computer file. I'm interested in doing the same with some of our footage.

Templar Bob/De Tyre · Post by **Templar Bob/De Tyre** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 5:12 pm

Suffering Christ!

Were you guys using steel!?

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Robert Coleman, Jr.

The Noble Companie and Order of St. Maurice
Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't.

Remember: In Living History/Reinactment, Real Life is the Great Leveler of Man.

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 5:22 pm

Yes! Its steel fighting

This footage was recorded a few months ago on a Digital8 camera (thats why it looks so bad) I just bought a new MiniDV camera and just plugged the Digital8 Into the MiniDv and the MiniDV into the computer. MiniDV goes through firewire wich is at 400MBPS!! You dont loose any frames! Look forward to a series of practice videos

Brodir · Post by **Brodir** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 5:45 pm

Cool. Two of the links go to the same video, 'fred2'.

Looks like it may be fun, you guys taken a kick at any other weapon forms yet?

Templar Bob/De Tyre · Post by **Templar Bob/De Tyre** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 5:48 pm

(Templar Bob speaks in Homer Simpson's voice--)

Ooooooh....shiny steel blunts....

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Robert Coleman, Jr.

The Noble Companie and Order of St. Maurice
Those who beat their swords into plowshares end up plowing for those who don't.

Remember: In Living History/Reinactment, Real Life is the Great Leveler of Man.

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 6:11 pm

The fred2 links are fixed

thnx for helping me out.

And yes we have tried other weapons and styles of combat. Everythingin the videos are based off of the Aemma fight book #1 or talihafers.

My weapon of choice is a long sword or claymore although mine broke into a strange type of V shape. My next choice is a dubble bladed battle axe but that also suffered a bad fate. The carbon steel blades on it have been bent so many times Its like a 22 gauge axe and its from 10 Gauge CARBON!! LOL

I also fight with a polearm and will put up some videos later tonight.

randy · Post by **randy** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 6:15 pm

is it just me or have you found that in proper armour you absorbe less from steel then rattan?

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 6:24 pm

well.. kinda, steel swords have a smaller profile than a rattan sword there for more force concentrated in a smaller area. Being hit with rattan or steel very hard isnt that bad as long as you have protection

Otto von Teich · Post by **Otto von Teich** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 9:44 pm

Good show! I'm a firm believer,that if well armoured,and well trained,blunt steel is fairly safe.No thrusting allowed!..Otto

The Lost Scott · Post by **The Lost Scott** » Sun Mar 10, 2002 9:53 pm

I can't get the big file to work.
But it looks ans sounds like fun.

LS

randy · Post by **randy** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 2:34 am

Otto the aemma rules allow stabbing, though they have much stiffer armour regs then any place i have fought. the demand chain under plate!
My original post however was about the dammage that my armour takes. I fight equaly hard in both steel and rattan, but my armour takes like ten times the dammage from rattan. To give an idea of the power and type of fighting involved, a friend of mine took a shot to the jaw that snapped her 1 inch / 12 once chin strap and took her helm about 9 inches up and in one smooth motion the attacker pommeled her in the face, broke her nose real bad, but that is the worst injury i have ever heard of there. for the most part, the worst injuries are armour bites. how ever i get get mangled regularly fighting with rattan?!?!?!

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 5:14 pm

First video is back up!!

funny as hell check it out!

FrauHirsch · Post by **FrauHirsch** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 6:22 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by KeggeR:
Just a fighter practice at the Balboa Park,Sandiego Ca.USA

[This message has been edited by KeggeR (edited 03-10-2002).]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice to see you guys having fun. Say Hi to David!

Juliana

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Mon Mar 11, 2002 7:35 pm

Thnx Juliana,

Yes it is almost to much fun

Fred and David both plan on going Crown War, but I think ill tag along this time

Hope to see you there!

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Tue Mar 12, 2002 10:57 am

Looks entertaining...but I don't think I can agree with the heading "steel fought harder than rattan"...unless you're talking about the steel of the ARMOUR of the guy who does the bull rush to slam the guy to the ground. Rattan fighters COULD do that as well....the steel sword has nothing to do with it.

KeggeR · Post by **KeggeR** » Tue Mar 12, 2002 1:56 pm

Hard fight number #1 It may not look it but really it was harder than rattan

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Tue Mar 12, 2002 2:54 pm

I keep getting a forbidden error

Russ Mitchell · Post by **Russ Mitchell** » Tue Mar 12, 2002 3:18 pm

Still not working. Neither option.

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » Tue Mar 12, 2002 4:01 pm

What I'm saying is the "hardness" of the fight has nothing to do with the weapons.

Lynxicanus · Post by **Lynxicanus** » Wed Mar 13, 2002 1:25 am

It wont let me do nadda.

Ashi · Post by **Ashi** » Sat Mar 16, 2002 12:58 am

I can't get to the videos. I would really like to see them. If there is another way please let me know. Thanks.

FrauHirsch · Post by **FrauHirsch** » Sat Mar 16, 2002 9:43 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by KeggeR:
Hard fight number #1 It may not look it but really it was harder than rattan <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

While I agree a few shots were definitely harder than we allow in steel in Adria, I also agree with Morgan that it was not a particularly "hard" fight for rattan (I assume you mean hard hitting). Though there is a huge variance depending on who you fight in the SCA.

Who have you been fighting in rattan? How many practices did you go to? Have been able to catch any "high game" fights between Knights and Dukes?

Many people won't ramp up real high if they think you might be pretty new. So I understand your comment may be based on your personal experience, but it may not be generally so. It depends a lot on who you fight with. On the average we tend to be somewhat harder hitting at our practice than I've seen at some of the Allied Gardens practices, possibly because the average calibration was higher on the average when we started playing "way back then".

-Juliana