pinsic photo links

David deKunstenaar · Post by **David deKunstenaar** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:08 pm

Are there any posted pictures of pennsic from this year? Links?

Christophe de Frisselle · Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:25 pm

Photos from Pennsic XXXI

[This message has been edited by Christophe de Friselle (edited 08-24-2002).]

sarnac · Post by **sarnac** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 10:59 pm

http://home.cogeco.ca/~sarnac-kir/

here is the first batch....
more after I get them scanned......
same addy

Noe · Post by **Noe** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 10:28 am

This is going to sound really snobbish, but wow, that is an awful lot of really crappy, unauthentic fantasy armour. Going through all those pictures, I was hard-pressed to find anything from a recognizable time period.

And what's with all the fighters in t-shirts and shorts?

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Melee · Post by **Melee** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 8:29 pm

I am so going to pinsic when im 18.

Wulfgar Ullicsson · Post by **Wulfgar Ullicsson** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 8:41 pm

Noe... what is so fantastical about fighters in bascinets, leather COPS, and steel arms and legs???

Granted, some of it's pretty crappy looking, but not all...

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"Wulfgar spake, the Wendles' chieftain,
whose might of mind to many was known..."

Wulfgar Ullicsson inn Gerpir

Wulfgar Ullicsson · Post by **Wulfgar Ullicsson** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 8:44 pm

I take it back, I actually continued on to the last page.

My apologies, that is a lot of really crappy armour, with some exceptions.

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"Wulfgar spake, the Wendles' chieftain,
whose might of mind to many was known..."

Wulfgar Ullicsson inn Gerpir

David deKunstenaar · Post by **David deKunstenaar** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 9:11 pm

Noe et.al.,

It should be a showcase event for a lot of reasons, but it is not and there are a lot of fighters who leave there pretty stuff at home. Heat, standing in the sun, waiting, long walks to the fight, the desire to be able to fight when you finially get to. It would be nice, but a lot of nice kits stay home (or back inthe tent), because of the attitude that is the biggest problem that arises out of the need to win.
The fun of Pennsic is in the shear size and numbers of eveything. I wish the armor was better too, and I am a very strong supporter of SCA. Still, it has come a long way from a field full of freon cans.

Noe · Post by **Noe** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 11:06 pm

Hmm. This brings to mind an idea that I once had.

How much would you be willing to pay to be able to leave your armour with a caretaker during Pennsic? Say it worked like this: When you arrived at Pennsic, you went to the caretaker camp. For a fee, your armour would be kept in an individual, covered container and guarded. For another fee, you could have your armour dropped off at the battlefield, so you could armour up on the spot. Would you take advantage of such a service?

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The defining characteristic of fanaticism is the inability to understand why everyone else is not a fanatic.

freiman the minstrel · Mon Aug 26, 2002 6:03 am

"For another fee, you could have your armour dropped off at the battlefield, so you could armour up on the spot. Would you take advantage of such a service?"

Man! I would love that! a lot of boglodytes would love it too. the walk to the woods battle is a bear when coming up from the bog! It's especially bad when wearing a full fighting rig. The walk back, dehydrated and weary, is a thousand times worse.

would you be charging by the battle or by the war? What security arrangements would you be able to make? How much would you want to charge? What would the Coopers have to say about it?

Rainald · Post by **Rainald** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 6:42 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Noe:
This is going to sound really snobbish, but wow, that is an awful lot of really crappy, unauthentic fantasy armour. Going through all those pictures, I was hard-pressed to find anything from a recognizable time period.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh come on now, if you squint real hard with just one eye:

http://zophia.mysitespace.com/PennsicXXXI/img_P8160231.html

these gold spray painted baseball catchers legs almost look like some sort of armour.

And what's with all the fighters in t-shirts and shorts?

Well see...wearing hockey gear is hot...and you don't want to work up a sweat too much... so you use the period solution of shorts and t-shirt.

Your standard are obviously totally unrealistic Noe, next thing you know you will be expecting fighters to wear gambesons and metal plate when they hit the field.

Drop me an email.

Noe · Post by **Noe** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 7:34 am

>would you be charging by the battle or by >the war? What security arrangements would >you be able to make? How much would you >want to charge? What would the Coopers >have to say about it?

I haven't worked most of that out. It was just an idea I had when I was at a war and said, "Gee, wouldn't it be nice if I didn't have to worry about my armour when I was out away from camp." And that led to the thought that I would be willing to pay to not have to walk to the battle in full kit.

I was thinking that if I did this, I would charge one charge for storage and another for each delivery. First I was just wondering if people would be interested in the service.

Yep, Ron, are expectations are probably way too high.

Incidently, does your comment mean that you didn't get the message I sent you last week.

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The defining characteristic of fanaticism is the inability to understand why everyone else is not a fanatic.

Rainald · Post by **Rainald** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 8:55 am

Disregard,it was there when I went to work this am.

Winterfell · Post by **Winterfell** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 9:32 am

Here are some shots that I took.
http://www.caerdubh.com/pennsic/index.html
I was really trying to get shots of examples of good garb. (oh well). Let me know what you think.

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Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 11:38 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Noe:
For another fee, you could have your armour dropped off at the battlefield, so you could armour up on the spot. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You would have made a killing this year with this. Why?

Because the numbnutz who moved the battles to 10am didn't consider the fact that the hay wagon doesn't start until 10am. If you're a swampie - you walk it. Only thing about war this year that sucked.

Deacon

Parlan · Post by **Parlan** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 12:24 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by freiman the minstrel:
"For another fee, you could have your armour dropped off at the battlefield, so you could armour up on the spot. Would you take advantage of such a service?"

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Naah. That's what squires are for.

Gethin · Post by **Gethin** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 2:07 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Parlan:

Naah. That's what squires are for.

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Wow! I could say so much, it's overwhelming!
Rhys-proprietor of escuyer schlepping and java delivery

Parlan · Post by **Parlan** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 2:23 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Gethin:

Originally posted by Parlan:

Naah. That's what squires are for.

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Wow! I could say so much, it's overwhelming!
Rhys-proprietor of escuyer schlepping and java delivery

Well, I know for a fact your knight wouldn't _make_ you schlepp anything although he does ask in a reasonably nice way. And he _really_ appreciates the coffee in the morning.

Now, if only he would train you to fight...

Chadwick · Post by **Chadwick** » Mon Aug 26, 2002 2:23 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Noe:
How much would you be willing to pay to be able to leave your armour with a caretaker during Pennsic?
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I recall that the (then) College (now Shire) of Grey Gargolyes under the leadership of Duke Cariadoc of the Bow and his squire Dain Greymouse ran a service as you described one year at Pennsic (10 years or so ago). They rented a Grimms tent adjacent to the field battle site and watched over individuals armour.

Given that they did not offer it the subsequent year - might be an indication that this is a service that people were not very interested in. On the other hand perhaps they were tired of running the service...

-Keith/Austin.

Drake Orion · Post by **Drake Orion** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:59 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Noe:
This is going to sound really snobbish, but wow, that is an awful lot of really crappy, unauthentic fantasy armour. Going through all those pictures, I was hard-pressed to find anything from a recognizable time period.

And what's with all the fighters in t-shirts and shorts?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I am glad you said it!

Christophe de Frisselle · Tue Aug 27, 2002 7:29 am

Even more pics from Pennsic

bela of kaffa · Post by **bela of kaffa** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 11:41 am

you've got pictures from the state dinner! thanks!! house kaffa and my lady wife ol'ga did the feast, but we didn't take any pictures...
bela

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Christophe de Friselle:
Even more pics from Pennsic<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Abaddon · Post by **Abaddon** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 12:49 pm

Now that I have seen all those pictures I am glad I did not go.

80,000 more things that I now want to buy.

WaaaghBoss · Post by **WaaaghBoss** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 3:12 pm

I am a member of the Grey Gargoyles. I'll have to ask why that service went the way of the dinosaur... From the folks I know at war, the walk in armor was the sole downside for them as well. :-)

David deKunstenaar · Post by **David deKunstenaar** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 6:58 am

This is great, there are some great photo's here. Thanks.

Arti

Lion du Fay · Post by **Lion du Fay** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 7:44 am

Christophe de Friselle you really went insane with the camera, didn't you? Good job. I have a terrible habit of taking a camera with me, but never taking any pictures!

Tarquin Bjornsson · Post by **Tarquin Bjornsson** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:46 am

What i wold kill to see is a video of that one shot thet took brannous out (you know the one where the guy broke the speed of light qand nobody saw it till it landed) or pictures of any ealdomereian fighting in the heroic champions battle (earl sir david, and edward boseleigh i think)

Drake Orion · Post by **Drake Orion** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:32 pm

I would love to see a video from a helm...maybe a little hidden camera... I heard that SCA does not allow video to be taken at fighting events?

Drake Orion · Post by **Drake Orion** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:34 pm

Ok what's with the white belts?

Abaddon · Post by **Abaddon** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:48 pm

What about them?
They denote Knighthood.

Drake Orion · Post by **Drake Orion** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:58 pm

Oh...it just looked a little faggy...like old men in light blue pants and a white belt.

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bela of kaffa · Post by **bela of kaffa** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:29 pm

the hidden camera photos exist; a gentle from the east (or is it aethelmarc), installed a small camera in the back of his shield, which takes pictures through a small hole... pretty interesting photos...
video's are fine, many people take them; they can also be a good training tool...

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Drake Orion:
I would love to see a video from a helm...maybe a little hidden camera... I heard that SCA does not allow video to be taken at fighting events?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:31 pm

I'm pretty sure my wife and I were standing in camp when this one was taken:

http://home.cogeco.ca/~sarnac-kir/ealdormere1.jpg

We had just dropped off the Meridian gift bag.

Steve

Steve S. · Post by **Steve S.** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:33 pm

Here's a Pennsic Pic that looks pretty damn cool!

http://www.caerdubh.com/pennsic/knights1.jpg

Steve

sarnac · Post by **sarnac** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 9:28 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Tarquin Bjornsson:
What i wold kill to see is a video of that one shot thet took brannous out (you know the one where the guy broke the speed of light qand nobody saw it till it landed) or pictures of any ealdomereian fighting in the heroic champions battle (earl sir david, and edward boseleigh i think)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check my page...there are some there