15th cen. French armour

Constancius · Post by **Constancius** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 12:10 am

I have a friend that wants 15th cen. French armour (SCA).
He said that he wants it to be as period as possible.
I suggested that he go with a CoP, and he likes that idea. What kind of helm would be good for that time frame for that area? Bascinet? Sallet?
Also, what kind of legs?
We're wanting to go cheap, but not ugly. Alot of the armour we're going to make ourselves, if not most or all.
Thanks for the help.

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Josh W · Post by **Josh W** » Thu Sep 12, 2002 2:37 am

I'm afraid that a coat of plates is right out for the fifteenth century. Your friend needs either a brigandine or a plate cuirass.

Headgear will depend on whether he prefers the earlier or later part of the century. For the first part of the century, the great bascinet seems to have been the top-of-the-line helmet. Later, sallets and armets predominate.

You're in St. Joseph, Missouri, right? It would be cool to have more Calontir folks than just me wearing decent plate harness.

Good luck!

Pietro da San Tebaldo · Thu Sep 12, 2002 8:20 am

The Pattern collection here on the archive has some really nice 15th c. limbs from Sinric. The patterns have been a joy to work with and I'll recommend them for that. They're Italian in design, but surely someone can offer comment on what differences, if any, seperated French armor from Italian.

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Constancius · Post by **Constancius** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 10:37 am

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Joaquin:


You're in St. Joseph, Missouri, right? It would be cool to have more Calontir folks than just me wearing decent plate harness.

Good luck!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, I'm in St.Joe alright. Where you at? If you get the chance to come here let me know. We'll have to get together.

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Josh W · Post by **Josh W** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 12:32 pm

I'm in Manhattan, Kansas, about three-and-a-half hours away. I find myself in the K.C./Leavenworth area nearly every weekend, though. Sure. We'll hook up sometime soon...

Gaston de Clermont · Post by **Gaston de Clermont** » Fri Sep 13, 2002 5:07 pm

Regular bascinets lingered in the earliest years of the 15th century in France before they were eclipsed by great bascinets, which are generally distinguished by attatched bevors of some sort. For a knightly combatant, I'd agree that the coat of plates is out of date, but I wouldn't be stunned to see militia in them in the early part of the century. Kettle hats were popular with the more lightly armoured troops.
Legs and arms are generally well encased in steel, and breastplates most often have faulds or tassets. The barbute style became popular first in Italy, and the salet in Germany, but the French probably played with both. At least in illustrations, the salet seemed to be more popular.
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