How to train a fencer into a heavy fighter?
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Simon/Jim
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Actually Kieran they are two very distinct types of footwork & stances. It wasn't until after I figured that out & changed my stance that I started to see improvement in my heavy fighting.
In ferro veritas,
Baron Simon Montgumery, KSCA
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Baron Simon Montgumery, KSCA
Al-Barran, Outlands
(Albuquerque, New Mexico)
Formerly of The East, the Far West, Caid (twice), Outlands, Drachenwald & Ansteorra
Simon/Jim wrote:Actually Kieran they are two very distinct types of footwork & stances. It wasn't until after I figured that out & changed my stance that I started to see improvement in my heavy fighting.
Depends on the footwork you're taught, which is what I was getting at.
Period footwork for "fencing" is very different from strip fencing footwork once you get beyond advance and retreat. The steps are a lot smaller, to boot, and a period fencing lunge is,a t best, a strip fencing demi-lunge today.
Italianate footwork changes very little over SCA period from Meyer through Fabris, Capo Ferro and Giganti, though the forms get a little more exaggerated (Fabris allows an out for this by suggesting that if you can't do the exaggerated form, you can always try something more mild).
It was less commentary on heavy combat and more commentary on how we train our fencers and their footwork.
wish you were still out here for the C&T program, man! I think you'd get a huge kick out of it, and the cross-training would help your heavy game.
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Saritor wrote:Depends on the footwork you're taught, which is what I was getting at.
Period footwork for "fencing" is very different from strip fencing footwork once you get beyond advance and retreat. The steps are a lot smaller, to boot, and a period fencing lunge is,a t best, a strip fencing demi-lunge today.
Quite agree, actually. The biggest difference between what footwork I use in fence and what I use in armored is the measure and time. The reason I recommend working out footwork first is because it is subtly different, not radically so. It's the details that'll getcha. Plus, footwork should be the basis anyway.
But, when it comes down to it, fighting is fighting.
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give him a pole arm to get started a 7.5 whip stick aside from slashing and choping the offence is the same deflecting and thrusting requier alot of the same moves in fencing..
work on a thrusting game then slowly add a chop make him defend and then make him do it to you. and slowly add in more chops and slahes.
nugg
work on a thrusting game then slowly add a chop make him defend and then make him do it to you. and slowly add in more chops and slahes.
nugg
