Clacker Construction

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I don't know why, but in my head I imagined a clacker as a thin rattan slat. It just occured to me that other shapes may be possible. Do any kingdoms have any construction limitations for clackers on maces?
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Here's what I found for the Midrealm:

http://www.midrealm.org/marshal/handbook/armoredcombat/Midrealm_Armored_Combat_Handbook_v11.0.pdf wrote:B
2. Clicker mace and axe
Clicker mace and axe striking surfaces may use split rattan, heater hose, or strips of rubber or leather as clickers. A minimum of ½ inch of closed cell foam must separate the haft rattan and the clicker. The clicker must start at least 1 inch below the head of the weapon, and stop 1 inch above the bottom of the head, and constructed such that the edges of the piece of clicker cannot come in contact with the opponent being struck. A clicker must be 1¼ inches wide, with a minimum space of 1 inch between clickers. A clicker must not extend more than ½ inch into a legal faceplate opening.
3. All maces are strictly single-handed weapons. Under no circumstances may any sort of clicker be introduced into a two handed weapons.
4. A single-handed mass weapon may not exceed 48 inches in length. Any mass weapon longer than 48 inches is considered to be a polearm and covered by those standards.


... nothing about thickness or shape of the clicker/clacker.
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Let me rephrase this a different way:

Is there any rule reason, anywhere, that would prohibit this: a mace with an uncarved 2" piece of rattan for a head. padding on the rattan and half-cylinder 1.5" to 1.5" diameter rattan pieces atop the padding as clackers.
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... 1.25" to 1.5" diameter ...
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As long as it is under the max wight and still has the required compression that should work. Although i would start with lighter rattan so that all the added weight goes into the head, this makes the balance better IMO. Of course that just means it is constructed legally there are still marshals that will fail it, my brother is trying to use a 1.9 lb perfectly legal mace with leather clackers {not even rattan} and the marshals in both of the baronies he attends practice will not let him use it. for some reason they think his 4.5 lb 2.25in 42in long telephone pole is safer than a padded weapon with the legal required amount of compression.
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I used a Baron Eirik 3" thristing tip, cored with a lenght of 1.25" shaved rattan thru the middle. I then quartered some monster rattan and taped them in v shaped grooves around the perimeter of the thrusting tip. It's been passed by a few different marshalls in Calontir.


Hope this gives you some insight.
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eidelon wrote:As long as it is under the max wight and still has the required compression that should work. Although i would start with lighter rattan so that all the added weight goes into the head, this makes the balance better IMO. Of course that just means it is constructed legally there are still marshals that will fail it, my brother is trying to use a 1.9 lb perfectly legal mace with leather clackers {not even rattan} and the marshals in both of the baronies he attends practice will not let him use it. for some reason they think his 4.5 lb 2.25in 42in long telephone pole is safer than a padded weapon with the legal required amount of compression.


He should ask his KEM to look at it if it is of legal construction.
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The difficulty with construction andthe inherent weight added by tape, leather, clackers, etc.. is what prompted the 100% contiguous rattan mace.
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I realize I am not exactly in the shallow end of the pool, but it is not that difficult.
I never stay in one place for three of my opponent's blows. I also never let my opponent throw three unanswered blows. Standing in front of your opponent lets him perfect his pell technique. Most fighters are very good against a pell. - Duke Gyrth
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