“Battle of the Nations” annual captains’ meeting!

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“Battle of the Nations” annual captains’ meeting!

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On December 9-10 2011 a summit of countries participating in the international festival "Battle of the Nations" will be held in Warsaw. The upcoming meeting will gather captains of the current national teams of different countries, as well as potential participants of the championship. The event promises to be informative and fruitful, since the main issues concerning the festival will be discussed. The main points to be discussed deal with the organizational issues and program of the festival "Battle of the Nations." In addition, captains of the national teams, as well as all interested participants will be able to discuss the common international rules of the historical medieval battle in details, ask questions and propose constructive suggestions.
The summit of the participating countries is a traditional and necessary event, which helps to solve disputable issues and to attract people, who are not indifferent to the unique and spectacular sport.

Press conference with the participation of the team captains, members of the national teams and fighters from different countries is scheduled for December 9, 12:00. Sportsmen willing to deal with the formation of new national teams are welcome at the summit. In addition, everyone willing to take part in the preparation of the festival "Battle of the Nations", as well as the development and promotion of the new fascinating sport are invited to the press conference.
The meeting promises to be a productive and interesting not only for those who will be involved in the fighting directly, but for those interested in the latest innovations concerning historical medieval battle.

After an open press conference a closed meeting for captains of the national teams will be held, where they will discuss strategically important issues, directly related to the sporting component of the large international festival.
The third world championship on the historical medieval battle will take place in early May 2012. The number of participating national teams, as well as more detailed information about "Battle of the Nations 2012" will be available soon after the summit.

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Someone from the USA team planning on attending?
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MalcolmdeMoffat wrote:Someone from the USA team planning on attending?


Three people have confirmed their attendance.
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MalcolmdeMoffat wrote:Someone from the USA team planning on attending?


Oh yes, the US team is well represented.

Edit - Natalia does that mean it's been decided it's early May and NOT April or is that still just a tentative guess by the BOTN powers?
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Lucian Ro wrote: just a tentative guess by the BOTN powers?

Yes, it is.
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MalcolmdeMoffat wrote:Someone from the USA team planning on attending?


I will be going.
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hi all

I asked on the BON website and havent got an answer yet but...
is titanium allowed.
can make some extremely protective finger gauntlets of of titanium.
could probably make them a bit more period with some pattern and tooling changes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NGVplVMY2E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NGVplVMY2E

seems to be from this translation... http://battleofthenations.com.ua/news.p ... temID=1601

Steel, titanium and stainless steel
2011-08-31 10:01:00


Making armor does not begin with the moment when the wizard starts to buckle plate or rivet the ring, and with the choice of metal. To be precise - with his production. Neither in the old days when blacksmiths were just learning to make armor, so we are interested in today, not now have can not do without. At the current market spread a few options that we consider.

So, let's say we have no krichnogo iron forge and present opportunities to smelt the metal from the ore itself. In such a situation are, say, without exaggeration, that's all. And, although all are addressing this problem in its own, the choice of materials they have not so great.

These materials are fairly easy to list - what we are going to do.
St3 steel - the most typical and simple, from which it can be a complex of / It differs from the steel, which was available to blacksmiths in the old days, though the fact that this steel - factory, and its composition, of course, is standard, no matter where you bought. This is usually about a millimeter thick sheets. If the steel is thicker, then the armor would be too heavy, if subtle - not strong enough. Modern steel is stronger medieval, it can be fairly easy to beat, to give any form, and this results in a good suit of armor - of course, if the material is in the hands of an experienced professional. This steel is higher quality than was available to artists at one time, but in general it is good enough to create the armor. It is more sturdy, handled differently, but it is the closest to the authentic material from readily available on the market.

The average weight of a set of armor made of steel St3 is 20-25 pounds, sometimes can reach 30. It's easy to move them only if there is skill, but anyone who has trained more or less regularly, knows how this skill is achieved.

In addition to this common steel grades, there are other options. For example, in the Middle Ages was virtually unknown in titanium, but modern reenactors armor it is made, and rather successfully. Of course, this is not a pure titanium, and a complex alloy with titanium. Titanium more carbon, than steel, it is stronger and lighter, not crumpled on impact and is easier processed, so the armor can be made out of it quickly. The strength of the alloy is such that it can make a plate of thickness less than a millimeter - about 0.8. The smaller thickness results in significantly less weight, which fighter will carry on their shoulders, when there will be at the stadium. Thus, the "titanic" complex of the average weighs about 15 pounds, and most difficult - to 20, the lower limit for normal armor. For example, the Gauntlet by the use of this alloy loses about 30 percent of their usual weight, case protection of the same model instead of 20 can weigh 12 kilograms.

Finally, the armor is often created from stainless steel - an alloy that does not resist corrosion. In general, the characteristics of the armor will be the same as the armor of ST3, but the owner spared from having to clean rusty from the dew or rain armor. Thus, the "stainless steel" armor is easier to maintain, but their historicity some doubt due to the fact that the real authentic armor is simply obliged to rust. Current rules do not prohibit the use of stainless steels in the manufacture of complete sets of protective gear, but the correctness of their use in terms of historical reconstruction of the Middle Ages remains a contentious issue.
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but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
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Negative...


mrks wrote:hi all

I asked on the BON website and havent got an answer yet but...
is titanium allowed.
can make some extremely protective finger gauntlets of of titanium.
could probably make them a bit more period with some pattern and tooling changes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NGVplVMY2E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NGVplVMY2E

seems to be from this translation... http://battleofthenations.com.ua/news.p ... temID=1601

Steel, titanium and stainless steel
2011-08-31 10:01:00


Making armor does not begin with the moment when the wizard starts to buckle plate or rivet the ring, and with the choice of metal. To be precise - with his production. Neither in the old days when blacksmiths were just learning to make armor, so we are interested in today, not now have can not do without. At the current market spread a few options that we consider.

So, let's say we have no krichnogo iron forge and present opportunities to smelt the metal from the ore itself. In such a situation are, say, without exaggeration, that's all. And, although all are addressing this problem in its own, the choice of materials they have not so great.

These materials are fairly easy to list - what we are going to do.
St3 steel - the most typical and simple, from which it can be a complex of / It differs from the steel, which was available to blacksmiths in the old days, though the fact that this steel - factory, and its composition, of course, is standard, no matter where you bought. This is usually about a millimeter thick sheets. If the steel is thicker, then the armor would be too heavy, if subtle - not strong enough. Modern steel is stronger medieval, it can be fairly easy to beat, to give any form, and this results in a good suit of armor - of course, if the material is in the hands of an experienced professional. This steel is higher quality than was available to artists at one time, but in general it is good enough to create the armor. It is more sturdy, handled differently, but it is the closest to the authentic material from readily available on the market.

The average weight of a set of armor made of steel St3 is 20-25 pounds, sometimes can reach 30. It's easy to move them only if there is skill, but anyone who has trained more or less regularly, knows how this skill is achieved.

In addition to this common steel grades, there are other options. For example, in the Middle Ages was virtually unknown in titanium, but modern reenactors armor it is made, and rather successfully. Of course, this is not a pure titanium, and a complex alloy with titanium. Titanium more carbon, than steel, it is stronger and lighter, not crumpled on impact and is easier processed, so the armor can be made out of it quickly. The strength of the alloy is such that it can make a plate of thickness less than a millimeter - about 0.8. The smaller thickness results in significantly less weight, which fighter will carry on their shoulders, when there will be at the stadium. Thus, the "titanic" complex of the average weighs about 15 pounds, and most difficult - to 20, the lower limit for normal armor. For example, the Gauntlet by the use of this alloy loses about 30 percent of their usual weight, case protection of the same model instead of 20 can weigh 12 kilograms.

Finally, the armor is often created from stainless steel - an alloy that does not resist corrosion. In general, the characteristics of the armor will be the same as the armor of ST3, but the owner spared from having to clean rusty from the dew or rain armor. Thus, the "stainless steel" armor is easier to maintain, but their historicity some doubt due to the fact that the real authentic armor is simply obliged to rust. Current rules do not prohibit the use of stainless steels in the manufacture of complete sets of protective gear, but the correctness of their use in terms of historical reconstruction of the Middle Ages remains a contentious issue.
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thanks ice looks like I am out on providing hand protection.
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mostly retired but still producing as a hobby.
am tired of making Titanium and 301 SS finger gauntlets
but still offer DIY shaped 301SS fingertip kits for $60 shipped.
usually can ship next day.
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mrks wrote:thanks ice looks like I am out on providing hand protection.
mrks



Markus,

With your skill at armoring, you can still hep the team if you do not mind working in stainless spring or mild. I would recommend you highly.

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