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Maille pick

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I picked this up off ebay as a fascination and it's pretty solidly made. I don't plan to enter into mortal combat with anyone wearing maille, but if I were this would be an effective weapon.

I know of various medieval weapons designed to penetrate armor, but this is the first maille pick I've seen.

Is this based off an historical piece?
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A stiletto dagger maybe?
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I want to call it a poignard, but that usually means a dagger with a long thin blade, not an actual spike.

I don't know if the weapon is historically accurate, but I did see it in the movie Excalibur, so I guess that's close enough.
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I don't think so, not as a rod. Make a three or 4 sided thrusting weapon of that diameter, and sure.

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The Ahlspiess (or awl pike) was a thrusting spear developed and used primarily in Germany and Austria from the 15th to 16th centuries. The ahlspiess consisted of a long thin spike of square cross section measuring a metre (39 inches) or more in length, mounted to a round wooden shaft and secured with a pair of langets extending from the socket. The length of the shaft ranged from 1.6 to 1.8 m. (5 - 6 feet), and located at the base of the spike was a rondel guard (a circular metal plate) to protect the hands. Large numbers of these weapons have survived and are kept in the arsenal and museums of Vienna as well as the Metropolitan Museum of Art.


There are plenty of helmets in Styria with nice, square holes.


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How long until someone uses this to document a "Western madu"?
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That's make sense. A Ahlspiess is a lot more logical. This maille pick is rather short, and it would be really difficult to get close enough to a armored and well armed opponent to use it effectively.

If it was made for a movie, they made it dangerously so. Possibly an improvised weapon or an imagined one. I asked the seller where he got it and he said it was from a pawn shop. No clue who made it.
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Looks like a Hollywood version of a rondel dagger.
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OMG it's a lawn dart! :mrgreen:

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Am I seeing it correctly, that it has a spike coming out of the pommel? If so, that wouldn't make any sense to me. That's where I'd want to cup my second hand over it to get my weight behind it if I was using it against a downed opponent.
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It is actually a good idea. You center your palm on the point, start driving it home, and you can be sure it won't slip out of your hands.

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