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If he is fighting at an SCA event, then I'd say he is a part of the SCA, no matter how anyone wants to color it to justify letting people slip in without conforming to the standards. Would it be ok for a group of guys doing WW1 reenactment to show up with their costumes and fight at SCA events?


This image is of a member of the Tuchux, an organization that participates alongside the SCA, but is not specifically a part of it. They have different standards, etc.

Varus - East[/quote]

I would agree with Wendall on this.
If it is at an SCA event, they should conform to our standards.
It's not like a T tunic would "ruin his whole look".

and that matters why? not trying to be a dick here but when attending an sca event you are subject to the rules of that organization. the rules for attending an sca event are very simple and include attire with a pre-17th century appearance. it is that simple. if someone is fighting at an sca event they must have an sca authorization card which means that while they are there they are part of the sca. period.

I am a little tired of hearing the excuse over and over that "they are not really in the sca". yes they are, when they are attending one of our events.

regards
logan

Sir Varus wrote:

WendallVonDerEisenstein wrote:

Konstantin the Red wrote:Of course there are. Which one, Wendell, do you think the sorest? Right ATM if need be.

not sure what you mean by "right ATM if need be"

When I see pictures of SCA events, it looks like most of the kits are, to put it bluntly, crap. If it weren't for the helmet and shield, they'd have no historical quality at all. The quickest example pulled from Ursus's pictures, kingdom crusades. <image deleted>

Maybe I'm wrong, but when I joined the SCA was supposed to be about historical sword fighting as an armored knight, not fantasy larping.

This image is of a member of the Tuchux, an organization that participates alongside the SCA, but is not specifically a part of it. They have different standards, etc.

Varus - East

Logan, I think Varus just made the observation because East, Aethelmearc and Atlantia see a lot of the 'Chux. I believe they are concentrated thereabouts.

oh yeah I know what he is saying. I am just tired of that being the typical answer for "them" (not just the tuchux, in atlantia we have more attendance from other groups than we do the tuchux and the majority of the tuchux that show up here are in acceptable kits. some of them are in very decent kits as a matter of fact).

and I didn't mean to dogpile varus. when I replied I was reading his post which was the last one on the first page. I didn't pay attention that there was a second page and the comments were in the same line as mine. if I had paid attention I would not have responded. again, I totally get why varus said what he did and I am not suggesting that he was wrong to follow the status quo. but, rather, the status quo is no longer acceptable in my mind and we need to stop allowing it.

the bigger problem is when folks go to authorize and they are wearing a kit that fails to meet the very simple and very clear requirements in corpora. the first question I ask someone attempting an authorization is "do you feel safe and comfortable in your armour?". if they say yes I then ask them "have you read, and do you understand, the conventions of combat and the rules of the list?" . if they say yes to the latter and are not in compliance with the appearance standards of corpora (or our specific appearance standards here in atlantia) I end the authorization and inform them specifically where they failed.

regards
logan

ps barrel plastic for hilts? nope, there are much better options. if plastic is used you should try to make it look less like a turd.

Konstantin the Red wrote:Logan, I think Varus just made the observation because East, Aethelmearc and Atlantia see a lot of the 'Chux. I believe they are concentrated thereabouts.

Mm, yeah. I figure that would also call for making it at least as useful as manure, to help the roses along. Its use in loaner-gear, efficient and cheap if ungainly, is already discussed. I think the approach has its merits, despite its tendency to not look medieval-style. I reckon, ah, Peer Pressure to be the cure for that part of the problem. Fighting and Sciences Peers have accumulated a lot of how-to and wisdom for getting medieval style out on the field and the eric on the cheap; there is much we can do that way.

Heck, I always found the automotive-hose crossguard acceptable, for its resistance to breakage, infinitesimal cost over time going through many rattan staves before it's used up, its ease of making even for the ten-thumbed, and susceptibility to at least sketching the tapers of a drooped crossguard when you mash the ends flat, sawtooth-notch each end, then tape over it with strapping tape to hold the squashed end down flat, with the notching, splitting the ends into forked shapes, or else semicircular trimming-off, all to disguise the cut hose-end as well as may be. Cast aluminum crossguards and pommels to match are all mighty well, and they're stuff we didn't have in the Long Ago, but they are for the people who reckon for sure they are worth their price. Those wouldn't be the new fighters, who might prefer to craft their pommels hammering from lead No. 2 fishing weights. While they still can! Jesus, the Fed! Are we going to have to go to little slugs of DU? Or will home casting of scrap aluminum in the driveway be next? Probably less of a problem to mix up a batch of epoxy resin and load it with metal turnings or beebees and try to cast it in a pommel shape -- no fire there.

Five-gallon plastic paint buckets present similar problems/challenges on a smaller scale. Bucket and barrel, the intractable pieces recycle, so that much virtue is thereby upheld -- much as we'd like to figure out particularly efficient ways to use the less tractable bits of either bucket or barrel.

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Yes, definitely not trying to justify, just explain. It is obvious that we try to be very inclusionary to grow the organization, and so are going to get visitors from other organizations whose focus is different. I am with all of you that would like tighter restrictions on list and field appearance.

Varus - East