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Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:10 pm
by rotafire

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:12 pm
by olaf haraldson
For that much? No thanks.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:46 pm
by rotafire
Unless Zoombang has gone down in price (dramatically), it's not that much more. And after watching the videos, it looks like it might function better. Just wanted to see if it had been evaluated for use.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:13 pm
by blackbow
if I get the chance I will get a set and evaluate it. It looks interesting to say the least.

Blackbow

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:33 pm
by Euric Germanicus
rotafire wrote:Unless Zoombang has gone down in price (dramatically), it's not that much more. And after watching the videos, it looks like it might function better. Just wanted to see if it had been evaluated for use.
My Zoombang Shirt was 175, one of those shirts is 394. (I'm comparing the jacket, it has similar coverage)

I love the idea of more products like this but woah that is some coin. It would be cool for someone (blackbow :wink: ) to compare the two.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:29 pm
by Therion
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Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:28 am
by Swete
Therion wrote:Image
Because, alas, 8th century Anglo-Saxons didn't wear armour aside from a helm and maille, and I don't want broken bones, haha.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:49 am
by Tibbie Croser
I could see that gear becoming popular with those HEMA practitioners who insist on a modern appearance.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:55 am
by Therion
Here is an interesting article discussing archaeological finds of splint armors around your time period - written by a Varangian reenactor, but discusses other areas. There's an excellent bibliography for further research.


Armour in Byzantium in the early years of the Varangian Guard, with special reference to limb defenses

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:30 pm
by Konstantin the Red
Well, Swete, I don't credit the no-gambeson, just-mail-over-shirt idea for the Dark and Viking Ages. Too anti-sensible, and flies in the face of what somebody who's got a lot of linen and no mailshirt might work up. Our ancestors didn't exactly look on broken bones as great fun to have. The absence of evidence can't quite be read as evidence of absence here, when it would after all pass the sniff test.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:28 pm
by olaf haraldson
I don't wear Zoombang either, for similar reasons.
rotafire wrote:Unless Zoombang has gone down in price (dramatically), it's not that much more. And after watching the videos, it looks like it might function better. Just wanted to see if it had been evaluated for use.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:49 am
by blackbow
Because, as I've said before, when you swing at me with a real sword, I'll put on real armor. When people stop throwing bullshit wrap shots because I can't punch their sword arm with my shield, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Blackbow
Therion wrote:Image

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:49 am
by Kilian_the_warlike
Tibbie Croser wrote:I could see that gear becoming popular with those HEMA practitioners who insist on a modern appearance.
"We want to study medieval combat, but not look like dorks, so we'll dress up like space marines in a scifi channel original".

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:00 am
by white mountain armoury
blackbow wrote:Because, as I've said before, when you swing at me with a real sword, I'll put on real armor. When people stop throwing bullshit wrap shots because I can't punch their sword arm with my shield, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Blackbow
Therion wrote:Image
Why wait, your a Knight in the SCA correct ? , dont you want to emulate knightly culture.
The warrior elite of any culture represent/display their social status with the quality of their arms and armour.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:02 am
by Henrik Granlid
Lots of people use hidden plastic or leather or titanium/aluminium splints, a lot of which are modern potpourris of different designs, all of this to keep to a historical silhouette they like. Or it's because of heat or weight or clunkyness or cash. Zoombang is no different than other hidden anachronisms. Besides, we are not reenactors, we are SCAdians. I myself strive to get real armour because I like the entire thing about it and the idea behind it. However, barrel plastic coats of plate (which I must regretably get as a starter), hidden leather vests and aluminium legs are just as "bad" as zoombang and people like different things.

Re: Has this been evaluated for SCA combat yet?

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:45 pm
by blackbow
no.
white mountain armoury wrote:
blackbow wrote:Because, as I've said before, when you swing at me with a real sword, I'll put on real armor. When people stop throwing bullshit wrap shots because I can't punch their sword arm with my shield, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

Blackbow
Therion wrote:Image
Why wait, your a Knight in the SCA correct ? , dont you want to emulate knightly culture.
The warrior elite of any culture represent/display their social status with the quality of their arms and armour.