Medieval Boar Hunt October 2005?

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:42 am

Greetings unto the Archive,

Several years ago I offered to sponsor a hunt/event here in Tennessee for Boar in a Medieval style/fashion. There were several people interested but it never happened for one reason or another. Well I have decided to try to set up a hunt again for this October if I can gather enough intrest and commited people.

If I remember correctly the cost was 550.00 per person with a no kill no pay rule, now this cost is if EACH person kills a Boar, if say five of us went in and killed one boar then I believe I can get the guide to split the cost amoung us.

I would like to stress that this is a very DANGEROUS hunt, Boars are mean nasty and downright unsociable type animals, and once they are cornered by a trio of hunting dogs and had their ear chewed on they "aint to happy".

I would like to keep the encampment as "Period" as we could, last time the owner of the hunting service had offered us a very nice flat area right beside a crystal clear river for our camp area.

Each hunter would be resopnsible for furnishing his/her Boar spear, and of course like any event their own armor,garb ect. Last time someone had even mentioned bringing a a barrier and having a pas during the off time....so who would be up for it?

P.S. please note this event may take place in S.C. or Georgia, as Tennessee has outlawed spear hunting of Boar, BUT they will br reviewing that law in July and I will know more then on the location (hopefully Tennessee).

Alfonse d' Orleans

Brennus · Post by **Brennus** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:05 am

I would love to attend but the 550 dollars a person is very steep for this sort of thing. Let me contact my Uncle who is partial owner of a hunting perserve in NC and see if they have any Boar hunting there. (I have never heard him mention it however I know there are alot of them in the area.) I also do not know about spear hunting in NC but when I used to have a hunting license there I believe it fell under the primitive hunting addition.

Alcyoneus · Post by **Alcyoneus** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:36 am

In many places, since boar is an introduced game (a pest, much like a noxious weed), no hunting licence is required (KS, among others). KS doesn't care how you kill them. ;-)

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:44 am

Brennus yeah check it out and let me know, the 550.00 (this is for a trophy boar 350 lbs) up if we could get five people up for it, the cost would drop to 260.00 per person but that is five of us hunting one Trophy size boar, not each one of us bagging a boar.

Here is the contact I spoke with and his website http://www.tennesseeboar.com/

I will speak back with him in July to see where Tennessee went on the Spear hunting of Boars.

Also JFYI, last week they air lifted a guy out with a broke leg...the Boar charged him and hit him with a passing shot. :shock:

Tarquin Bjornsson · Post by **Tarquin Bjornsson** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:58 pm

i would do it in a heartbeat provided i don't need to get a hunting license, and i would have to drive down from canada to do it

Brennus · Post by **Brennus** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:28 pm

I did a little checking North Carolina is prohibitively expensive for an out of stater to get a Boar hunting License somewhere in the range of 250 dollars. Georgia has a 7 day out of state license for 25.00 and you may hunt them year round, no limit. An out of state Tennessee license is 105 for 7 days.

The reason for the difference in pricing is that in N.C. and Tenn. Boar are considered Big Game and in Georgia they are considered Nuisance animals.

I can't get the stupid pdf forms that South Carolina uses for their fee schedule to open up for me so I can't find the fees.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:20 am

Brennus, there is no requirment for a liscense to hunt Boar in Tennessee, but until the change the primative hunting regs ...it dont matter anyways :sad:

Brennus · Post by **Brennus** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:23 am

I didn't know Tenn. had an exemption for Boar. I saw them listed under Big game and thought you needed the big game license to hunt them. NC however made it very plain by listing the animals under each licensing type.

Trevor · Post by **Trevor** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:57 am

It's too bad they don't allow spears. Spears are a lot deadlier than rifles. They produce a larger wound channel with better capability of cutting vital structures, so the boar is more likely to die quickly without undue suffering.

They are deadlier to boar-but the state officials may be more worried about the hunters' safety...

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:08 am

Well, from what the gentleman told me at the lodge, is that some smuck..somewhere let a 13 year old kill one with a knife (dont ask me how I dont know) then the TWRA (Tennessee Wildlife Agency) found out and BAM! No hunting boars with spears...just bows...go figure. But he did seem confident that the rules would change come July, and so if they do I will be doing my best to arrange an event for the fall.

It would be toooooo cool to have several medieval reenactment people hunting a 400 lb boar.......

Brennus here is the link for huntiing requirments:
http://www.tennesseeboar.com/license.htm

Alfonse

Krieghund · Post by **Krieghund** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:29 am

Alphonse,

This is something that I've wanted to do for years now. Please don't forget to bring this up again if the laws change or we can possibly do it another way. There are several others I know that would probably be interested in attending as well. Thanks!

Jonah

Destichado · Post by **Destichado** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:59 am

Alphonse wrote:Well, from what the gentleman told me at the lodge, is that some smuck..somewhere let a 13 year old kill one with a knife (dont ask me how I dont know) then the TWRA (Tennessee Wildlife Agency) found out and BAM! No hunting boars with spears...just bows...go figure. But he did seem confident that the rules would change come July, and so if they do I will be doing my best to arrange an event for the fall.

Common in the south. In texas and florida, with the aid of hunting dogs, this is done all the time. Isn't thought too much of, either. I think it's just officials hearing something "new and scarry" that went appaplyptic.

Apollonian · Post by **Apollonian** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:21 am

The boars in Carolina and Tennesee are part European, with the game stock imported in the late 1700's = Big Game. In Florida and Georgia, they are ferrel pigs = nuisance.

Falcone

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:40 am

Yall prolly already know this but some Calontiri have done this

see http://comp.uark.edu/~pavel/pig.html for a blow by blow report;)

Halv

Halfdan · Post by **Halfdan** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:06 pm

If I can afford it, I'm in! My buddy Hagen (if you're Meridian you probably know who he is) has been talking about this for a while, so he might be in, too.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:12 pm

Halvgrim,

Yep I remember reading that a few years ago, it inspired me to try to work one up here in Tennessee.......

Alfonse d' Orleans

Brennus · Post by **Brennus** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:24 pm

Yeah but when your feral hogs look like this.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/22/hogzilla.ap/

7 feet long and 800 lbs. Thats a good fightin' pig.

I grew up in NC and have seen them up close and the ones down here in the Georgia swamps don't look much different in size or attitude.

Alphonse · Post by **Alphonse** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:46 pm

See now thats what I am talking about!!! 800 lbs of mean beast, a test of man vs a beast of nature.....lions, tigers and Bears..oh my!!

Halfdan, yep I know Hagen, I am going to try to make FP down there Sunday just look for the guy with bells and fleur-de-lys on his legs..hehehe

Brennus, whats the next event you going to?

Alfonse

Brennus · Post by **Brennus** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:22 pm

The next event I am certain to be at will be Heroes and Heroines as I have to serve lunch at it.

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http://www.statutaarmorum.com/

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Halfdan · Post by **Halfdan** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:52 pm

Alphonse-- I'n looking forward to it! I'm sure I've probably seen you around but haven't made the connection. We've been having a great turnout since the weather got nice. I also look forward to talking about this hunt in person.

Destichado · Post by **Destichado** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:19 am

If this thing goes down, I'm game.

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:42 am

Just dont 'hog' all the lime light;)

Halv

Malachiuri · Post by **Malachiuri** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:55 am

Wow, I had no idea that story was still around in print.

That was an amazing adventure and something I'll remember for the rest of my life. It was definately the high point of the year just before I was knighted.

One of the things that Pav mentions in the story is how horrific the boar spears were. The wings on the spears didnt do a damn thing to stop the blade from going in. On every hit from the winged spear the wings actually broke ribs to either side of the wounds. On 2 such wounds, the wings shattered 2 ribs to either side of the wound and drove the ribs into the lungs. This made the boars "disinclined to continue".

Swords are truly thing of beauty and terrible distruction. I look a leg off of one boar as it was hanging at a point where it was identical to my own forearm. I never felt the sword slow. Not ever as it passed thru bone. All of those movie shots of guys lopping arms off really is the real deal. I was actually a little frightened by how easily the blade passed thru hide, meat, bone and ummmm... well.... very nearly my right foot. Only the steel toe insert I made for my period fighting boots saved my right big toe.

Id do this again in a heartbeat. The issue we are running into in the midwest is the laws on preserves. In Ks and Mo they upped the acreage that you must have to something crazy like 2000 continous so it put a lot of smaller operators out of business.

I can check for a Texas possibility, or Arkansas

Destichado · Post by **Destichado** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:12 am

Halvgrim wrote:Just dont 'hog' all the lime light;)

That would be boarish. :wink:

Halvgrimr · Post by **Halvgrimr** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 8:27 am

or at the very least pig headed;)

Halv