Does anyone here know... in the midrealm, for a fencer... would a close fitting 16 ga. steel "face" fencing helmet be legal?
I was thinking the gap between mask and wearer to be about 1 inch with a couple of padded spots to prevent metal on skin contact.
Or... is there a facial contact rule similar to what exists in heavy fighting which would prevent such a mask from being legal?
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Guy Dawkins
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With out seeing this helm or seeing how it fits I can't answer. Here are the pertanant Midrealm rapier rules as to head and neck.
2.1.3 HEAD AND NECK PROTECTION
A. PROTECTING THE HEAD
The front and top of the head must be covered by rigid material to below the jaw line and behind the ears. Standard 12 kg fencing masks are known to meet this standard.
B. PROTECTING THE FACE
The face must be covered by mesh rated at least 12 kg (e.g. a standard fencing mask). See Section 2.1.6E
C. SECURING HEAD AND FACE PROTECTION
Head and face protection must be secured to the fencer, so that it cannot be easily removed or dislodged during combat. The combination of snug fit and the spring-tongue in a conventional fencing mask is NOT sufficient by itself, to secure the head and face protection to the fencer. Some other device (such as, but not limited to, a lanyard around the neck and bib, an external hood placed over the mask or an extra strap running across the back of the neck) must be used to secure the mask.
E. PROTECTING THE THROAT AND NECK
A Gorget (or its equivalent) must be worn which shall protect the larynx, the trachea, and the cervical vertebrae, and cover the jugular notch at the top of the sternum. It shall be constructed of rigid material and be backed by either puncture -resistant material (such as a fencing hood) or one-quarter inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam or their equivalents.
F. PROTECTING THE REST OF THE HEAD AND NECK
The rest of the head and neck must be covered by at least puncture-resistant material (e.g. a fencing hood or coif). This head and neck covering must be tucked securely into the fencer's garments or protective gear in such a way as to prevent a blade from slipping under it.
We don't specifacaly refer to the face touching the mask, but is not a good idea!
Hope this helps
2.1.3 HEAD AND NECK PROTECTION
A. PROTECTING THE HEAD
The front and top of the head must be covered by rigid material to below the jaw line and behind the ears. Standard 12 kg fencing masks are known to meet this standard.
B. PROTECTING THE FACE
The face must be covered by mesh rated at least 12 kg (e.g. a standard fencing mask). See Section 2.1.6E
C. SECURING HEAD AND FACE PROTECTION
Head and face protection must be secured to the fencer, so that it cannot be easily removed or dislodged during combat. The combination of snug fit and the spring-tongue in a conventional fencing mask is NOT sufficient by itself, to secure the head and face protection to the fencer. Some other device (such as, but not limited to, a lanyard around the neck and bib, an external hood placed over the mask or an extra strap running across the back of the neck) must be used to secure the mask.
E. PROTECTING THE THROAT AND NECK
A Gorget (or its equivalent) must be worn which shall protect the larynx, the trachea, and the cervical vertebrae, and cover the jugular notch at the top of the sternum. It shall be constructed of rigid material and be backed by either puncture -resistant material (such as a fencing hood) or one-quarter inch (6 mm) of closed-cell foam or their equivalents.
F. PROTECTING THE REST OF THE HEAD AND NECK
The rest of the head and neck must be covered by at least puncture-resistant material (e.g. a fencing hood or coif). This head and neck covering must be tucked securely into the fencer's garments or protective gear in such a way as to prevent a blade from slipping under it.
We don't specifacaly refer to the face touching the mask, but is not a good idea!
Hope this helps
Guy Dawkins
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Barony of Ayreton
Kingdom of the Middle
This whole mad slide into hell started when we let California have it's own pizza.
Honor virtutis praemium
_______________________
mka: David Valenta