Avalon and Yielding a fight

[Noe]

I can't remember if I have posted these here before or not. Over the years, Avalon has had a number of conventions developing regarding when one should yield a fight. These are not rules; rather, it is sort of an accepted standard of personal honor. I would be interested in hearing the reaction of folks back in the U.S.

One might consider yielding when:

1) A hold was called on your behalf, particularly when your opponent had to give up an advantage as a result of the hold. So, if you are backed into a corner defending yourself, and then you step too close to the crowd, causing a hold and recenter to be called, you might consider yeilding.

2) Similarly, if a hold had to be called on your behalf because of an armour malfunction, particularly if it caused your opponent to lose an advantage.

3) A hold has been called because you lack armour to continue. For example, in a tournament, you are fighting with a half guant. You lose your right arm and you don't have a half-gaunt for you left. In other words, if you don't have the gear, don't stop the tournament with cries of "anybody got a guantlet?!"

4) If you are in a ridiculously disadvantaged situation. E.G. unarmed, flat on your back, dagger at your throat.

In Avalon, a situation that comes up sometimes is that a person with guants will grapple witha person without. In the course of grappling, the person with half guants might lose his grip on his sword. A hold would be called because the person with half-guants is unsafe. At that point, it is considered proper to yield.

However, there are also ideas about accepting someone's offer to yield.

1) Did you have the person at a clear disadvantage, which you lost because of the hold? If yes, then maybe you should accept.

2) Did the other person yield because of a problem that resulted from your prowess? (E.G. You wrestled and took away his weapon, and he does not have guants) If yes, then maybe you should accept.

3) Did the person yield because of an unfortunate event? Person trips over a rock and ends up helpless before you, even though you have not yet raised a hand againt him? If yes, then you might consider not accepting.

Thoughts?

[Robert of Canterbury]

Noe,

that all Sounds good to me. Remarkably good.