Atantian Crown List-

[dukelogan]

being the king that knighted this worthy man i must say that im disappointed in da's odds. last time i knighted someone was 11 years ago and i would have felt poor if i didnt recognize this mans worth. he is an awesome man and a great fighter and i put him much higher than da does.

but then again i cant stand dio and never liked man-o-war. so i might not have the magical powers that da does from banging his head to such tunes.

regards
logan

75:1 Theron Andronikos

Just got Knighted. This will be his first time in the big show since then.

There was a time in the Midrealm when this was often the best indication of who was likely to win the next Crown ... AoC

[DarkApprentice]

75:1 Theron Andronikos

Just got Knighted. This will be his first time in the big show since then.

There was a time in the Midrealm when this was often the best indication of who was likely to win the next Crown ... AoC

There was a time many years ago when this was a great indicator (the late 80's to mid-90's for example), but there has been a serious shift away from that in recent years. To use the Mid as an example, since 1998 the shortest time between Knighting and winning has been for Valharic of about a year (notice he finalled once as an unbelt) too, Lutr in about 3 years or so, including his finalling in Crown a few times after getting Knighted, and Alasdair in about three years as well. Alaric Le Fevre took 5 years in between.

Keep in mind that out of the last 20 reigns in the Mid, that only 6 were by people Knighted within that time period, so roughly 1 in 3.3 or so. Of those 6 wins, 4 of them were by people who had finalled before- and I think that this indicator can be much more useful.

Looking at Atlantia, however, we see a serious shift away from this. Since 1998 in Atlantia, Ragnar took 2 years, Sinclair took 3 (including some high finishes), and Valharic the transplant took 6 including a final against Michael of Bedford. 8 reigns were by people who were Knighted within the period- of those 8 reigns, at least 5 of those wins were preceeded by a prior Crown final (either won or lost) by the individual, at a minimum, all of them had demonstrated dominance on the field and tourney circuit prior to their wins. Also, of this bunch 1 was a prior Crown winning transplant, and all but one had been Knighted in 2000 or prior. Essentially in Atlantia, there has only been 1 Crown winner who has been Knighted since 2000. So when making odds for the win, these factors seriously have to be considered.

Enjoy,

DA

[Vladimir]

rumors.....

why does anyone pay attention to them when they could easily just ask people directly? but then if that happened the sca would crumble to pieces.

to date ive had no more than three people ask me if im fighting, i bet rags has had no more than me.

logan

Ok, I'll bite.
Are you fighting in Crown Tourney?

[Edmund of Hertford]

75:1 Theron Andronikos

Just got Knighted. This will be his first time in the big show since then.

There was a time in the Midrealm when this was often the best indication of who was likely to win the next Crown ... AoC

That was a looong time ago roomie. A lot of new knights tend to try to settle in before winning Crown, and without the old crown invite list system, knighthood and crown are not really on a linear progression anymore. Plus all the old fart dukes won't go away.

[BdeB]

Sir Theron just annouced that he is not fighting, and I believe Duke Logan announced the same last week. (at least it was implied by the damage shown on his MRI)...

I have heard one of those rumours myself that there is a mysterious unbelt who has sent in a letter but isn't listed on the list for some odd reason...

[dukelogan]

make that four..

esa and i have put our letter in and it has been accepted by the crown. we are prepared to enter the list.

regards
logan

rumors.....

why does anyone pay attention to them when they could easily just ask people directly? but then if that happened the sca would crumble to pieces.

to date ive had no more than three people ask me if im fighting, i bet rags has had no more than me.

logan

Ok, I'll bite.
Are you fighting in Crown Tourney?

[dukelogan]

the damage the mri showed has some impact on my ability to fight, oh and it hurts like hell. but ive been fighting the whole time since the injury (which happened just before gulf wars) and have altered a few things to be able to deal with the pain/weakness in my wrist.

while surgery is required to fix the issue i am able to function. not sure how it would hold up to being struck but i dont suspect anyone is going to hit my left wrist. though im not sure that it being hit would hurt any more than it does but id rather not find out.

sucks if theron doesnt fight. i just talked with him about it last week. i hope they do make it and they do come and fight.

regards
logan

Sir Theron just annouced that he is not fighting, and I believe Duke Logan announced the same last week. (at least it was implied by the damage shown on his MRI)...

I have heard one of those rumours myself that there is a mysterious unbelt who has sent in a letter but isn't listed on the list for some odd reason...

[Kenwrec Wulfe]

rumors.....

why does anyone pay attention to them when they could easily just ask people directly? but then if that happened the sca would crumble to pieces.

to date ive had no more than three people ask me if im fighting, i bet rags has had no more than me.

logan

Are you fighting in Crown, Your Grace?

[wilmot]

"while surgery is required to fix the issue i am able to function. not sure how it would hold up to being struck but i dont suspect anyone is going to hit my left wrist. though im not sure that it being hit would hurt any more than it does but id rather not find out. "
I don't think something like this would stop you unless the finials are multi-weapon. I won my first crown (West Kingdom) after having my left thumbs flexor tendon reattached, it hurt a lot when the top of my shield was struck but it just got me to end the fights faster

Good luck,
Ronald

[dukelogan]

here is what i posted last week:

[i]conclusion is that i have “torn the proximal ulnar insertion of the triangular fibrocartilageâ€

[GrumpyMacBastard]

Injured or not, my money is on Duke Logan. The don't call him a "Super Duke" for nothing.

[WilliamThomas]

Injured or not, my money is on Duke Logan. The don't call him a "Super Duke" for nothing.

Uhmmm I thought they called him a "Super Duke" cause he was a really swell guy...


WT

I will be there filming

[Sigifrith Hauknefr]

[quote]conclusion is that i have “torn the proximal ulnar insertion of the triangular fibrocartilageâ€

[blackbow]

The way Crown Tournaments are set up in Atlantia discourages sharing of information. You send your letter in, TRMs get it, and nobody who sent a letter in is supposed to say anything. Not surprisingly, this has the side effect of everybody else feeling they have to keep quiet about what they do or don't know, at least until the list comes out.

regards

Jonathan Blackbow

rumors.....

why does anyone pay attention to them when they could easily just ask people directly? but then if that happened the sca would crumble to pieces.

to date ive had no more than three people ask me if im fighting, i bet rags has had no more than me.

logan

I was hoping to fight in this crown, but then my wife somehow got pregnant, and the Lady I was going to fight for had to cancel due to family issues as well.

I'm sure other folks have similar issues.

Everybody keeps talking about gas prices, so it must have some sort of effect.

Also, and who knows where these things come from, but I've heard that Dukes Ragnar and Logan won't be fighting.

[WilliamThomas]

being the king that knighted this worthy man i must say that im disappointed in da's odds. last time i knighted someone was 11 years ago and i would have felt poor if i didnt recognize this mans worth. he is an awesome man and a great fighter and i put him much higher than da does.

but then again i cant stand dio and never liked man-o-war. so i might not have the magical powers that da does from banging his head to such tunes.

regards
logan

Just because I am a Kingdom history goob, your Grace you knighted 3 worthy gentles correct?

Sir Mathias Broussard le Caignon Feb. 1997
Sir Gunther Addis Nov. 1997
Sir Theron Feb 2008

Just wondering,
WT

[blackbow]

Mathias=Sir Keigan?

Also Sir William the Stout.

JB

being the king that knighted this worthy man i must say that im disappointed in da's odds. last time i knighted someone was 11 years ago and i would have felt poor if i didnt recognize this mans worth. he is an awesome man and a great fighter and i put him much higher than da does.

but then again i cant stand dio and never liked man-o-war. so i might not have the magical powers that da does from banging his head to such tunes.

regards
logan

Just because I am a Kingdom history goob, your Grace you knighted 3 worthy gentles correct?

Sir Mathias Broussard le Caignon Feb. 1997
Sir Gunther Addis Nov. 1997
Sir Theron Feb 2008

Just wondering,
WT

[dukelogan]

jonathan has it correct. i knighted sirs william and keigan in my first reign. gunther, by way of an edict from the chiv and the will of the outgoing king, at my second coronation. and, theron during this last reign.

regards
logan

[Anthonye]

From the Merry Rose

Sir Jason was victorious in the finals of Crown Tourney. We have a
Prince and Princess!
Vivat Atlantia! Vivant Their Highnesses Jason and Gerhild!

Countess Rowan

-Antonio

[Syrfinn]

Congrats to their Highnesses Jason and Gerhild. Very nicely done.

Looking forward to seeing who was in the semis and finals against his Highness.

[manusokean]

Your brother knight Robert. 2-1 with Jason.

He did well but Jason got him in the head.

I was not there, I was working, but got reports from site.

Manus

[Dagonet]

Wow...Awesome...!

[blackbow]

Final 6:

Jason in one winner's side, Rob in the other.

Logan v. Afshin (Logan)

Ragnarr v. Dammuth (Dammuth)

Final 4:

Jason v. Dammuth (Jason)

Rob v. Logan (Rob)

Jason v. Rob, (Jason 2w, Rob w/s, Jason w/s)

[WilliamThomas]

I was going to post vid. to youtube but after reviewing today... it is to filled with varying comments so I will work on it this week and see if I can remove sound

WT

[St. George]

Yeah...

Not to mention that you have to create CGI files of the final rounds so that we can all see what happened... or maybe you should hire a Union camera assistant to make sure that you have the right number of batteries and tapes so that you can shoot the entire tournament

g-

PS- my Union rate is around $600 per day

[Krieghund]

Congrats to their Highnesses Jason and Gerhild! Vivant!

[BdeB]

I'll say this, Duke Valharic is the ultimate Insider. He was scary with his predictions by the middle of the tourney. Not only was he telling the AI who would win each fight, he was predicting how and where the blows would land. SCARY.