Pennsic Warriors of History Tourney: Axes of the Ages

AvM · Post by **AvM** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:06 pm

I desperately want to fight in this someday.

Drogo the Clueless · Post by **Drogo the Clueless** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:52 pm

Been searching everywhere and I cannot find solid documentation for a 1 handed ax used during the 3rd crusade time frame by a serjant in the Templar order.

Anyone please point me in the right direction?

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:55 pm

D. Sebastian wrote:Sean,
You've shown yourself to be just and of the mindset we seek.
If you can plausably explaine the use of the arms/legs/body together, then yes - as long as the armour Laurels agree.

Yes which is why I would disqualify myself... I'm going to go do some more research and try to refine my documentation. It's a lot harder to document what you already have rather then to armor to what you can document! I'll be so happy when my Rene de Anjou suit is done...

Sean

B. Amos · Post by **B. Amos** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:29 am

Drogo the Clueless wrote:Been searching everywhere and I cannot find solid documentation for a 1 handed ax used during the 3rd crusade time frame by a serjant in the Templar order.

Anyone please point me in the right direction?

there is still enough time to authorize with a two handed axe, I think you will be glad if you do.

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:53 am

Drogo,

3rd Crusade is not my area, but an option is to look at who you were fighting. It you lost your sword in battle and picked up a weapon from the field...

Just make sure you can speak intelligently about, and document what you're weilding.

Part of this is to educate each other!

Drogo the Clueless wrote:Been searching everywhere and I cannot find solid documentation for a 1 handed ax used during the 3rd crusade time frame by a serjant in the Templar order.

Anyone please point me in the right direction?

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:15 pm

Greetings,

I built and fought with my very first axe last night.

I seriously need more practice.

Hjlmr inn Dasnki

Euric Germanicus · Post by **Euric Germanicus** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:30 pm

Axe's are funky. I always club people with the handle like I have a sword.

They are fun though.

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:15 pm

Greetings,

Euric Germanicus wrote:Axe's are funky. I always club people with the handle like I have a sword.

They are fun though.

Agreed. Axes are fun and funky. I built a five footer to cut my teeth on. I had a lot of fun and learned a lot, but definitely payed the price for it this morning.

Hjlmr inn Danski

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:08 pm

BUMP! to keep this on peoples mind.

I'll be fighting by's or pick-ups for this one. This weekend I was reminded that I traded away my 16th century stainless gauntlets for partial payment of 15th century gauntlets. It's too many compromises in my book and I don't feel I fit the spirit of how this tourney was intended.

Best of luck to all those who attend it.
Sean

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:26 pm

Sean,

You are a good man.

I charge you to fix your kit so that you can fight in this tourney!!
It is lacking without your character.

Angusm0628 · Post by **Angusm0628** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:06 am

IF I still got enough gas in my tank after Combat of the Thirty I may stick around and plead my case for this list as well...

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:08 am

D. Sebastian wrote:Sean,

You are a good man.

Don't tell anyone it will ruin my reputation as a bad-ass muth*ucker.

D. Sebastian wrote:I charge you to fix your kit so that you can fight in this tourney!!
It is lacking without your character.

Next year make it a mace and shield tourney and come hell or high water I'll be in a full Rene de Anjou spring-steel harness with crest and matched 3" rattan klobben.

(maybe I can borrow 16th century gauntlets for this year)

Sean

Iain (Bunny) Ruadh · Post by **Iain (Bunny) Ruadh** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:42 pm

Sean Powell wrote:
D. Sebastian wrote:Sean,

You are a good man.

Don't tell anyone it will ruin my reputation as a bad-ass muth*ucker.

D. Sebastian wrote:I charge you to fix your kit so that you can fight in this tourney!!
It is lacking without your character.

Next year make it a mace and shield tourney and come hell or high water I'll be in a full Rene de Anjou spring-steel harness with crest and matched 3" rattan klobben.

(maybe I can borrow 16th century gauntlets for this year)

Sean

Hee hee .. I'm looking at revamping mine to a full mid 14th spring steel transitional built around my Patrick Thaden's spring face plate this upcoming year as well ... I'd love to match you out there if we go for maces this next year!

In the mean time, would these be o.k. to use for your harness this year? I'll bring them along and be at the Cot30. You're welcome to use them during the tourney ...
http://www.oaksarmoury.com/dangaunts.html

Larmer · Post by **Larmer** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:32 am

AvM wrote:I desperately want to fight in this someday.

What is holding you back?

Tailoress · Post by **Tailoress** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:11 pm

*Does a happy dance for this endeavor and my faboo student, Angus, and D, who is just sunshine (in a masculine kind of way)*

*Throws a hissy fit because all this martial goodness is happening right around when my order meetings are scheduled.*

-Tasha, who will try to be in two places at once.

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:44 am

(Smooches @ Tasha)

WoH was a great time!
Axes of the Ages saw some fantastic fights and talented axe work.
The level of peoples kit is getting true;y exceptional!
(I hope to post pics soon).

Next year we're thinking either Hammers/Mauls/Maces

or

Pointy sticks under 7' with sidearms under 1'.

We'll know by December!
:twisted:

Saburou · Post by **Saburou** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:31 pm

It was a truly awesome time. I'm sorry I couldn't stick around for most of the tourney, but vivat and kudos to all the good gentles in fantastic kits who fought.

AvM · Post by **AvM** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:35 pm

Larmer wrote:
AvM wrote:I desperately want to fight in this someday.

What is holding you back?

All sorts of things.
Life, for starters.

Tailoress · Post by **Tailoress** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:43 pm

D. Sebastian wrote:
Pointy sticks under 7' with sidearms under 1'.

Ooh ooh! I vote for cut lances and daggers!

Sorry I missed your Tournament, D. I *really* regretted that. :cry:

-Tasha

Vladimir · Post by **Vladimir** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:51 am

It was great fun. Thanks for putting this on D.

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:16 pm

I had a great deal of help (I'm just the "Vanna White"). From the MOLs to the Marshals, the many organizers, and my fellow Cataphracts and Fedoratti...

We are glad you all like it as much as we do!

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:55 am

Baroness Kiena's WoHT (raw) pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81508677@N ... 76/?page=2

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:25 am

Greetings,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/81508677@N ... 702181576/

I get sent to Valhalla by the deft axe work of Saburou with about thirty seconds left. It was a good day to die.

Fun times, thanks D.

Hjlmr inn Danski

Saburou · Post by **Saburou** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:00 pm

Man, what a great time that opening melee was. How do I get a copy of that video?

Larmer · Post by **Larmer** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:49 pm

Thank-you for the enjoyable tourney. It was my first time and a lot of fun. Thanks also for posting the pictures to Flicker.

Have you considered putting at least one picture of each fighter on the main web site? This way people can see what the standard is for the tourney.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:21 pm

Everyone with spears next year? It's historical to almost every time period...for that matter when are spears NOT part of the historical record for any location?

-Aaron

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:18 pm

Larmer wrote:Thank-you for the enjoyable tourney. It was my first time and a lot of fun. Thanks also for posting the pictures to Flicker.

Have you considered putting at least one picture of each fighter on the main web site? This way people can see what the standard is for the tourney.

Some of the pics have bad lighting, some have weapons in strange places, most of the fighters are not wearing gauntlets (I'm pondering putting some of those up as the gauntlet is oop for may of the kits - BUT the idea is that this is the FIGHTING kit resourse, and you need a gauntlet to fight polearm).

Some pics will get up pretty soon.

Saburou · Post by **Saburou** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:03 pm

Hey, listen D, you said the concept for the photos was "Osprey illustration". No stainless gaunts in my samurai Osprey books!

Also, can you post full details on the winners? I know the tourney winner, but who officially won the opening melee and the "best kit" prize?

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:52 pm

Sab - you have a bargrill.
Same exception we make for the gauntlets.
A needed evil.

Kudos to those who go the extra mile to make them less noticeable.

Winner was Damon Von Drachenklaue.
Fighters Choice was Baron Vladimir
(Damn Rooskies!)

Meelee was won by the 10th Century.

audax · Post by **audax** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:01 pm

Drogo the Clueless wrote:Been searching everywhere and I cannot find solid documentation for a 1 handed ax used during the 3rd crusade time frame by a serjant in the Templar order.

Anyone please point me in the right direction?

Drogo, the one handed axe was in use during the entire Crusades period. YOu can rest easy using one.

Hjlmr inn Danski · Post by **Hjlmr inn Danski** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 5:26 pm

Greetings,

Saburou wrote:Hey, listen D, you said the concept for the photos was "Osprey illustration". No stainless gaunts in my samurai Osprey books!

Also, can you post full details on the winners? I know the tourney winner, but who officially won the opening melee and the "best kit" prize?

That's why I took off my gauntlets and batting gloves.

Vladimir has a bitchin' kit. . .on and off the field. Well earned, well fought.

Hjlmr inn Danski

D. Sebastian · Post by **D. Sebastian** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:58 pm

Please feel free to retake pics and send them to me for the site.

I WAAAAYYYY particular about what goes up.

mattyd@mattyd.com
please include era and location of persona.

Vladimir · Post by **Vladimir** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 9:13 am

D. Sebastian wrote:Winner was Damon Von Drachenklaue.
Fighters Choice was Baron Vladimir
(Damn Rooskies!)

Heh heh, big day for us Rus

Does Damon post on here?

Thanks to everyone who voted for my kit btw, I appreciate it. I honestly did not think I stood a chance in winning. So many nice kits out there.

Brother Logan · Post by **Brother Logan** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:58 am

This is what the SCA should look like! Great kits all round with minimal departures (and almost all I saw were for safty reasons) and all pass the "10 foot rule" with most passing the "5 foot rule". Now if some one would do a Warriors of Fantasy tourny and get all the fantasy SCA kits out there to look this good!
Cheers,
Leo

Damon · Post by **Damon** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:20 pm

The tournament was a lot of fun. It was also awesome to see so many period kits. Kudos for D for pushing the society closer to the dream.