Galleron's cut lances.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:34 am

Anybody know how long they are?

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:45 am

i think they are about 9 ft

I have some pics of them being used at the Vannes on the Pennsic Pics thead

Graedwyn · Post by **Graedwyn** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:03 am

We used them at Aethelmearc's 12th night.
The way they handle is like the difference
between a stick, and a good sword.

-Graedwyn

Sir Guy · Post by **Sir Guy** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:20 am

Is this something Guy is going to want???

Guy Dawkins · Post by **Guy Dawkins** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:32 am

Sir Guy wrote:Is this something Guy is going to want???

probable all Guys are going to want this.

Uneg · Post by **Uneg** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:36 am

Sir Guy wrote:Is this something Guy is going to want???

Probably! They look super cool, and (according to reports) handle wonderfully.

Tutorial

Forum discussion about them starts shortly after Cet's post.

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:07 am

"They balance well, and the 2â€

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:10 pm

My squire jess just gave me a matching pair of FAT 8' rattan poles that will be perfect for a pair of these.
I'm so psyched.

Galleron · Post by **Galleron** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:34 pm

Vitus:

The shafts are eight feet long. This seemed to be a plausible length for single combat, based on the fechtbuchs, particularly the Codex Wallerstein.

Sean:

Yes, the shafts are fatter than I would like. Society rules impose a minimal thickness at the thin end that's thicker than the historical prototypes. And for Society combat I'm required to use rattan instead of ash, so a fatter shaft is needed to get reasonable stiffness.

I do the best I can within the Society rules.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:36 pm

I don't know how tapered I can make mine... I have tiny hands. A fat end that is too fat will be useless...

Uneg · Post by **Uneg** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:41 am

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:I don't know how tapered I can make mine... I have tiny hands. A fat end that is too fat will be useless...

Maybe you could start the taper a foot or so up from the non-pointy end, and taper in both directions?

Sean Powell · Post by **Sean Powell** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:10 am

Vitus von Atzinger wrote:I don't know how tapered I can make mine... I have tiny hands. A fat end that is too fat will be useless...

Consider looking at a lance? Taper up to in front of the hand, drop down for the hand a back up then taper back to the butt. I've been debating building one like that to fight against Galleron but my uber-thick rattan is reserved for klobben when I get farther along with my new kit.

Galleron wrote:I do the best I can within the Society rules.

And you do it better then anyone else I know.

You bringing this out for Green Lane? I'd love to have another dance with them.

Sean

Galleron · Post by **Galleron** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:27 pm

While Society combatants often place their rear hand on the butt of the spear, there's evidence that suggests that medieval combatants often took a position further foward on the shaft. This would make a thick butt to the spear shaft less of an issue.

http://willscommonplacebook.blogspot.co ... -foot.html

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:39 pm

True that!
I need to learn the "pushing style" as well.