2 handed mace - your opinion needed

Errant Knight · Post by **Errant Knight** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:29 am

hi guys,

I'm thinking of making a 13th century 2 handed mace. Its got 6 rows of spikes. Based on the maciejowski bible.

I'm trying to work out if this will be popular enough for it to be worth my time and effort. If you can let me know whether you would be interested that would be good.

It will be made out of Brass/Bronze.

regards,
Damien.

Garick · Post by **Garick** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:03 am

That sounds like an aweful lot of lateen to melt at a time. I know regular mace heads and pommels pretty much max out my casting capacity. Also, it seems too long for a standard kiln, flask, etc. Are you planning to sand cast?

Klaus the Red · Post by **Klaus the Red** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 10:37 am

What about casting it in two identical cylindrical halves, then brazing them together?

InsaneIrish · Post by **InsaneIrish** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:08 am

Garick wrote:That sounds like an aweful lot of lateen to melt at a time. I know regular mace heads and pommels pretty much max out my casting capacity. Also, it seems too long for a standard kiln, flask, etc. Are you planning to sand cast?

I would not take that illustration as a 1:1. If you did, the head of that mace would weigh 50 lbs. WAY to heavy to actually wield.

I would say a 2 handed mace of that size would have a head probably 12" long with a fairly close relief to the haft. Meaning not alot of mass, outside the spikes, around the haft.

Garick · Post by **Garick** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:25 pm

I was actually envisioning that at about 12 inches as well. But for non- foundry casting, that is pretty dang big.

Errant Knight · Post by **Errant Knight** » Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:41 pm

It would be between 6-8 inches long as that is the length of the side of a mans face, as shown in the picture. Plus the other 13th century original is 1 inch for 1 spike, multiply that by 6 rows is about 6 inches.

The weight would be about 600 grams or 1lb. So pretty good really. It will probably be sand cast.

herrhauptmann · Post by **herrhauptmann** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:15 am

Nissan had a long mace of some sort he was showing off in a different section of the forum recently. I think it was the 'combat and weapons.' Anyway, you could ask him how he made his weapon, and just alter the process for your maciejowski bible mace

edit: I believe it was called a tetsubo
There's a few pics in this thread http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=52805

Errant Knight · Post by **Errant Knight** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:38 am

sorry for the confusion. I know how to make it. Would anyone want to buy one? If not, I probably wouldn't bother because of the time and expense involved. Just wasn't sure if they would be popular.

herrhauptmann · Post by **herrhauptmann** » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:45 am

Ahh, sorry I either misread your opening post, or didn't read it fully...
Anyway, I fight sword and board, and will probably do so for a long time.

My apologies

JousterAlan · Post by **JousterAlan** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:56 am

I might be interested in one to use in our renn faire shows (I do dismount from time to time to fight on foot) depending upon the price and shipping to the U.S.

Jehan de Pelham · Post by **Jehan de Pelham** » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:12 am

I don't have a real dog in this, as I am not in the market for a two-handed mace, but two observations:

1. Depiction of heroic combat. Maybe what we're seeing here is a flight of fancy?

2. It's possible that there were two-handed maces made. I would suggest that perhaps a way to go about it is to cast it in such a way that the mass is appx 1.75 x the mass of a single-handed mace, and not more than 2x. How you go about this is your game, but it looks to me that there is the possibility ot putting most of the mass in the spikes and not so much in the shaft that serves as the matrix that holds them.

Best,

John

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