Otto's Order list

Violen · Post by **Violen** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:45 pm

Guys i just realized somthing.

I have a funny feeling that list is a lot bigger than we realize. A Lot Lot Bigger.

Thats probably why he isnt posting it.

Toshido · Post by **Toshido** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:19 pm

Maybe what we need is to get Otto's customers posting either in this thread or a new thread with date ordered and items ordered then we can compile a list of known orders.

Would not be a complete list, but better then what is currently being offered.

Hell I think I will work on that tonight by going through this thread and adding my own helm and gorget just for kicks...

Bernhart von Bruck · Post by **Bernhart von Bruck** » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:36 pm

Violen wrote:

I have a funny feeling that list is a lot bigger than we realize. A Lot Lot Bigger.

I've had the same feeling for a while now.

Dragonslayer · Post by **Dragonslayer** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:06 pm

Well, i had a gorget and spaulders. Mid july. Hope that helps your list.

Halberds · Post by **Halberds** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:16 am

The list is huge my friends...

This is why I gave up hope long ago.
I don't expect my July order to ever materialize on my doorstep.
It just ain't gonna happen.

Get over it.
We have been had by the best.
However... I have been had by better.

I offer no ill will... Just the old Caveat Emptor as usual.
Suck it up and move along.
Nothing to see here folks.
Keep moving.
Go back to your homes.

Hal

Valstarr Hawkwind · Post by **Valstarr Hawkwind** » Sun Mar 28, 2010 12:28 am

If you recall, someone has posted at least once that his sale put/helped put other armourers actually out of business, so one would have to expect that he sold quite the quantity.

Val

Greenshield · Post by **Greenshield** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:02 pm

List request BUMP

....yet again

Myriador · Post by **Myriador** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:53 pm

There was a post from someone who said they recieved 2 gorgets after Thanksgiving. I haven't seen anything since then about anyone recieving anything (Unless I missed something). Have any customers recieved product since then?

Caspar · Post by **Caspar** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:37 am

I received a helmet from him in December. July order that was a gift for my son. I pestered him a lot to get it before Christmas after it was due in September. I will say, that given the circumstance he put himself in, he still did deliver a quality product, and not something halfway put together just to shut me up.

Caspar

Caemgen mac Garbith · Post by **Caemgen mac Garbith** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:29 pm

That's good to hear Caspar, thank you.

Magnus of Red Hammer · Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:11 pm

I cannot speak for Otto in regards to his queue, or how accurately he sticks to it, but my squire brother's mid-July order came last Thursday. The quality of the piece was pretty good, so when/if the rest of the orders make it out, at least it doesn't appear that the quality will be affected.

My .02 update.

Coenred · Post by **Coenred** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:45 pm

Maybe there is hope for my order (July 15th) yet.

Maire O Halowrane · Post by **Maire O Halowrane** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:11 pm

Coenred wrote:Maybe there is hope for my order (July 15th) yet.

God I hope so!!

Coenred's better half

Caemgen mac Garbith · Post by **Caemgen mac Garbith** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:25 pm

Bernhart von Bruck · Post by **Bernhart von Bruck** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:36 am

7/21...still nothing.

Greenshield · Post by **Greenshield** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:55 pm

Still waiting for that list Bump

armsandarmor · Post by **armsandarmor** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:34 pm

just got my stuff from Otto. I think hes too busy working to get on here. very nice work and great price too. I can see a long list building up and an equally long wait as well.

MXBNW · Post by **MXBNW** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:45 pm

armsandarmor: When did you order

armsandarmor · Post by **armsandarmor** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:56 pm

was a month or so ago actually. small stuff though. How are events up in bellingham? my brother lives up there.

Bernhart von Bruck · Post by **Bernhart von Bruck** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:15 pm

Wow. And some of us have been waiting since July....

Ottawa Swordplay · Post by **Ottawa Swordplay** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:08 pm

I'm pretty sure that Arms and Armor purchased one (or more) of the stock gorgets that Otto has been making and listing here on the archives, using that income to pay for shipping on the other items. I suspect he is also using them as part of his plan to keep himself working, by having small jobs he can finish quickly to keep him motivated to do the big ones. Just my speculation though.

I'm not a customer of Otto's, so I have no investment in this, and I am not really trying to defend him, per se. I mostly don't want his customers who are already frustrated get themselves more worked up that he's skipping the line up, when he has in this case been pretty above board about what he's doing. I can't imagine how frustrated most of you feel, and I don't want to see that increase!

I hope Otto digs himself out of this hole, so that all of you get your gear.

Tobar · Post by **Tobar** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:15 pm

I hope Otto digs himself out of this hole, so that all of you get your gear.

+1

Boomlaor · Post by **Boomlaor** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:15 pm

Bernhart von Bruck wrote:Wow. And some of us have been waiting since July....

Or since June. I gave up though and bought a helm from another source. If I ever see the helm from Otto I'll be surprised.

armsandarmor · Post by **armsandarmor** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:10 pm

ya what i picked up was in stock and not what other people had ordered. I wanted to post so people would know hes still sending stuff out, not just taking money in. beyond that i cant really speculate.

DeCalmont · Post by **DeCalmont** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:41 am

armsandarmor wrote:ya what i picked up was in stock and not what other people had ordered. I wanted to post so people would know hes still sending stuff out, not just taking money in. beyond that i cant really speculate.

that's not entirely true, some people waiting also have gorgets with their order...

DeCalmont · Post by **DeCalmont** » Mon May 03, 2010 3:44 pm

Like it's going to get a response... :roll:

Greenshield · Post by **Greenshield** » Tue May 04, 2010 3:09 pm

Wasted Bump

Drekar · Post by **Drekar** » Wed May 05, 2010 10:23 pm

so i see theres not much update since i was last on, if u get this otto please let me know how Emerson's helm and gorget are comeing i need him on my wall this summer

Tobar · Post by **Tobar** » Fri May 07, 2010 8:16 pm

Let me know about my two helms and gorget if you could too. Would like to be on a wall this summer

DeCalmont · Post by **DeCalmont** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:53 pm

nothing like standing around waiting to get run over... :evil:

MXBNW · Post by **MXBNW** » Wed May 12, 2010 12:54 pm

I have not got an Email from him in a month

Violen · Post by **Violen** » Wed May 12, 2010 3:25 pm

A simple suggestion.

Give up. If he sends you what he owes you, good.

In the mean time get new helms people, if you were waiting on a helm from him to fight you should be motivated to get a different helm for now.

the money aint coming back.

If my stuff gets shipped horay. if not, im still buying a helm elsewhere to get a buddy into armor

Like i did with otto.

DeCalmont · Post by **DeCalmont** » Wed May 12, 2010 3:38 pm

People "giving up" is exactly how situations like this continue to happen.

I for one am now keeping a list of people that have screwed others over no matter the intent and no matter how they're doing lately. Once bitten twice shy, certain West Coast and now Arizona P.O.S. as an example.

So feel free to give up as your choice but I would not recommend that course of action for everyone.

Roland Brokentooth · Post by **Roland Brokentooth** » Thu May 13, 2010 7:29 am

DeCalmont wrote:People "giving up" is exactly how situations like this continue to happen.

I for one am now keeping a list of people that have screwed others over no matter the intent and no matter how they're doing lately. Once bitten twice shy, certain West Coast and now Arizona P.O.S. as an example.

So feel free to give up as your choice but I would not recommend that course of action for everyone.

+1

Violen · Post by **Violen** » Thu May 13, 2010 12:55 pm

You are correct.

Except that if you look above my post you will see there are people specifically waiting on the goods they bought from otto, before they can fight or go to a war.

This is unacceptable thinking. A fair number of people bought stuff from him last summer, and it is almost _THIS SUMMER_.

If you need stuff that you bought from otto, waiting on it is a bad idea. Buy it somewhere else so you can get yourself/yourfriends on the field.

When and IF his stuff arrives. Sell it. Give it Away.

Dont wait on it.

Otto's Order list

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