For sell: Bascinet Klappvisor

Jolly Knight · Post by **Jolly Knight** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:41 am

Bascinet Klappvisor

14G mild steell, mirror polishing, linen liner.

Size - 24-25"

New price - 350USD including delivery.

Location - Ukraine. (Or in the middle of the Indian Ocean)

Thank you for looking.

Valley of the Fir Trees · Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:05 pm

That is a little too big for me, but I am in the market for a bascinet. I like that style a lot.

PM coming.

Saxon1974 · Post by **Saxon1974** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:22 pm

Hmm, says its made from hot rolled steel, isn't that a little weaker than cold rolled?

Jolly Knight · Post by **Jolly Knight** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:10 pm

Saxon1974 wrote:Hmm, says its made from hot rolled steel, isn't that a little weaker than cold rolled?

In my opinion both of this mild steels (hot rolled and cold rolled) have alike physical properties, and only one thing that may cause the difference is handing method.

But it is a very interesting question, I need to check this out. :wink:

Valley of the fir trees wrote:That is a little too big for me, but I am in the market for a bascinet. I like that style a lot.

PM coming.

Answer coming.

Qwertypolk · Post by **Qwertypolk** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:29 pm

Some backup on this would be good, but cold rolled is generally stronger only before the working. Hotrolled has been annealed. When worked, hotrolled should work harden, and become just as strong as cold.

TakedaSanjuichiro · Post by **TakedaSanjuichiro** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:07 pm

Qwertypolk wrote:Some backup on this would be good, but cold rolled is generally stronger only before the working. Hotrolled has been annealed. When worked, hotrolled should work harden, and become just as strong as cold.

Depending on your supplier, cold rolled usualy has a bit more work hardening to it, in mild steels this ammounts to almost nothing. Hot rolled tends to be a "hair" softer. Having done hardness tests on sheared sheet steel for a company I worked for I can tell ya jus tthe act of cutting (with shear of some kind) imparts a far greater work hardening within 1/8 of the edge than the difference between them. (That was a boring week)

The variance between suppliers/mills can also vary between batches considerably as well. If you are buying virgin stock, you can pobably see the variance in the spec sheets... when I went to look on McMastercarr it even said "Warning hardness rating is estimate and sample may not be the same" Unless you are buying to a spec (which you pay premium for) there is not a significant difference.

About the only functional difference is when deep dishing or deep forming a bowl or severe anticlastic curve without annealing, I tend (not scientifically proven) find cracking can come faster with cold rolled, but I've never done hardness tests on my own stuff, let alone actualy mic it to see what other variables there are.

-Takeda

Keegan Ingrassia · Post by **Keegan Ingrassia** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:10 pm

*whimpers* Augh, to have an extra month's paycheck lying around...! :cry:

Leo Medii · Post by **Leo Medii** » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:43 pm

Jolly Knight's work is top notch. One of the nicest faces I've seen.

Raynold of Wharram · Post by **Raynold of Wharram** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:27 am

Lovely Helm... Almost makes me want to get another one just because...

Jolly Knight · Post by **Jolly Knight** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:33 pm

Thank you guys! :wink:

Helmet is SOLD! Pending payment!