FS : Spun Tops

[EmorokianArms]

Mild Steel spun tops.
These are true 12 ga. mild steel spun tops. They are spun from an 11 ga blank, to give a true 12 ga finished product.
They are 9 inch diameter, with a 4 5/8ths inch depth.
We have 10 for sale now, with many more being available at Pennsic.
$60.00 ea, call for shipping.
Thank you!
Emorokian Arms

(Edit by JT to remove the (bad) attachment, which was pointing to a missing file)

[aidanhroarsson]

pics?

[Agnarr]

WOW 60 for a spun top?

[Effingham]

WOW 60 for a spun top?

Yeah, that kinda blew my mind, too.

[EmorokianArms]

spun metal products are harder to come by these days as many metal spinners are out of business. i have quite a bit invested in these tops and would much rather make them into helms and sell them. however i am offering some for sale to those who want to build their own helm.

[EmorokianArms]

original pics were removed..uploading again.

[Agnarr]

Ok.......Good luck.

[Broadway]

Bo... you can get a head shaped helm top (ie: not spun), made out of two halves, welded and ground down from Rough from the Hammer Armoury for $55.

Pretty common knowledge.

[EmorokianArms]

well like i said before i will gladly keep these and make them into helms that i sell for 100 bucks i just thought i would offer a few for sale. these are true 12 ga tops spun from 10 ga with min. spin lines and no center hole. they require very little clean up and are ready to ship off the shelf with out a wait.
hammered tops can have thin spots and are often only 14 ga or started as 12ga and were then thined by dishing to 14ga. so i am sure you can get
tops elsewhere but you get what you pay for.
Beau
Emorokian Arms

[Agnarr]

well like i said before i will gladly keep these and make them into helms that i sell for 100 bucks i just thought i would offer a few for sale. these are true 12 ga tops spun from 10 ga with min. spin lines and no center hole. they require very little clean up and are ready to ship off the shelf with out a wait.
hammered tops can have thin spots and are often only 14 ga or started as 12ga and were then thined by dishing to 14ga. so i am sure you can get
tops elsewhere but you get what you pay for.
Beau
Emorokian Arms

From Rough from the hammer? I never had a problem. A lot of the big armourers in the sca buy from him.

[Broadway]

Nah, Cet's stuff is tough as nails, and solid through and through. No malice intended, just a heads up to you, Beau.

Maybe you could look into using the helm halves from RFTH, and turn those spun tops into salad bowls or something... Anything so as not to have more of those monstrosities sitting on folks heads in the SCA.

well like i said before i will gladly keep these and make them into helms that i sell for 100 bucks i just thought i would offer a few for sale. these are true 12 ga tops spun from 10 ga with min. spin lines and no center hole. they require very little clean up and are ready to ship off the shelf with out a wait.
hammered tops can have thin spots and are often only 14 ga or started as 12ga and were then thined by dishing to 14ga. so i am sure you can get
tops elsewhere but you get what you pay for.
Beau
Emorokian Arms

[EmorokianArms]

i was not trying to imply that there is a problem with his work or any one else's, merely stating the reasons why i use spun tops to make helms from rather than dishing them any why they are priced as they are. there are many types of helm you can make from a spun top as you have a complete
hemisphere to work from. if someone wants say 10 or more we can talk about a price break. I will never comment on other armours work and
i am know that there are many fine craftsman in the armour business.
having made hundreds of helms over the years i am confident in the products that i offer.

[sha-ul]

attach some swivel rings on 2 sides or make a bail that could be supported by a tripod& you have a fine start for some cooking utensils

[sha-ul]

Seriously, it would not take too much work to make these tops loosely resemble the pots pictured in here, without the pesky leaks

http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB2/ ... 40#1737540

[Cisco]

Ok, come on guys...be nice.

He has something that most of us aren't interested in, we gave an opinion, no need to mock him.

[sha-ul]

Ok, come on guys...be nice.

He has something that most of us aren't interested in, we gave an opinion, no need to mock him.

I'm certainly not mocking him, I think these could be readily re-purposed into cookware

[Galileo]

Most of us are better than heckling a person trying to seriously sell something useful here.


Those spun tops would make nifty, appropriate Roman helms.



G--

[EmorokianArms]

I have made 100's of helms out of these spun tops that you would never know were made from them unless you were told. i also make a simple
helm that i sell for 100 dollars that we lovingly refer to as the ugly helm.
it ain't winning no beauty contest but it will keep you safe as well as provide glancing surfaces and exceptional field of vision. These helms are intended for starting fighters on a tight budget who other wise would not get to play. For what most armouries are sell a helm for we can sell you an entire kit helm included, made of mild steel with all the requirements met. not everyone can afford 500 bucks for a high end helm. we offer a selection of helms from 100 and up. ALL of which are made from these very same spun tops. there are at least 3 dukes i know of wearing our helms and i bet you could not pick their helm out from anyone elses, yes they are made from spun tops. our armour is crafted for optimum use as SCA stick fighting armour. after all that is what you are defending yourself from a stick of ratan. we make every effort to make affordable armour so that others may also enjoy the love of SCA style combat and not be priced out of the game.
Thank you for you interest
Beau
Emorokian Arms

[Baron Alcyoneus]

Most of us are better than heckling a person trying to seriously sell something useful here.


Those spun tops would make nifty, appropriate Roman helms.



G--

Or Turkish.

[Bender]

Spun tops are only really "ugly" if you are too lazy to sand off the ridges from forming and leave them round. They work great even appearance wise if you give them a bit of elongation and tlc.

I've never understood people who complain about the end results of novices who use things like this. At least they are doing,rather than just being snobs.

@ Op-good on ya. People need reliable solid entry level stuff-good luck!

[Broadway]

@Bender. I was mearly pointing out that there are was a better alternative for for a cheaper price on the market.

@Beau... I'm gonna call bullshit on 3 Dukes wearing your spuntop helms.

[EmorokianArms]

well mat next time i'm in asheville you can take it up with me in person
i consider that comment an afront to my personal honor and i expect an apology

[Thomas MacFinn]

spun metal products are harder to come by these days as many metal spinners are out of business. i have quite a bit invested in these tops and would much rather make them into helms and sell them. however i am offering some for sale to those who want to build their own helm.

I think anyone making their own helmet is going to go to quite a bit of effort to make them fit. Unfortunetly for spun tops, true round heads are very rare (my head is sharply oval).

On the other hand, there will always be newcomers willing to sacrifice fit for something cheap and legal and complete. I suggest doing what you can to make the round tops oval and finishing the helms. $100 is not a bad price for a first helm.

[EmorokianArms]

spun tops can be ovaled with a rubber mallet not to hard to do. Also
you can cut 1 inch to half an inch out of the center and weld them to make any number of helm types. The possibilities are endless. spun tops offer
a good starting point for novices to pro's .

[Botaro Tengri]

@Beau... I'm gonna call bullshit on 3 Dukes wearing your spuntop helms.

First off, I have known Beau for 20+ years. He is an excellent source for munitions grade armor, as well as making really affordable armor that is sturdy, functional and excellent for getting new fighters onto the field.
Additionally, every time I see pictures of wars, including recent ones, as well as event pictures, I can spot Beau's work...a great deal of which has been in service for 20+ years.
I myself have several pieces of armor made by Beau. I have basket hilts that are older than a great many fighters that are currently fighting...that are in just as good of shape as they are when I obtained them from him.
Now, Broadway, addressing your questioning or " calling bullshit" of Beau's claim. You have no knowledge of who he has sold helms to, or who he has personally made armor for; where as , I do. I personally know several Dukes, Counts, Chivalry, myself being a Viscount included, who wear helms that are made from Beau's spun top base. Sallets, English Civil war helms, Roman helms and bascinets included. You calling "bullshit" borders upon libel, and is certainly slanderous.
Ovaling a spun top helm is quick, easy and very simple as Beau explained. A couple wacks with a mallet, and the shape is nearly perfect.
Add a few rivets, a couple plates, and you have a functional sturdy helm that is excellent for a beginning fighter. It is even good for a veteran who doesnt want to get his pretty brasswork and mirror polish messed up prior to attending an event. It is excellent for practice and sparring.
Beau's "ugly helm" as he calls it, is a perfect helm for new fighters, growing baronies, peers forming households and twinking out new men a arms. It is inexpensive, lasts forever ( see comment above regarding helms still in use after 20+ years), offers a great field of vision, as well as being very "breathable".
Bradway, your personal dislike of spun tops is simply an opinion. The spun top based helm has, and always will have its place in SCA armoring, regardless of what you think about it. However, it is your personal attack on Beau's claims that is highly innappropriate. I agree, you do owe him an immediate apology. Keep this in mind: if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all. You advertising someone else's product, as a comparison, is much like comparing apples and oranges. Would you compare Ice Falcon's Gothic Elbows to Red Falcons? I think not.
Finally , Beau, I called. Return my message, i need 4 spun tops for sallets .
Regards,
Botaro

[Agnarr]

You calling "bullshit" boarders upon libel, and is certainly slanderous.

I do not think so........

I used to get them done for fairly cheap. We would cut them into quarters and make spangenhelms out of them that turned out ok sometimes.

[Botaro Tengri]

You calling "bullshit" boarders upon libel, and is certainly slanderous.

I do not think so........

I used to get them done for fairly cheap. We would cut them into quarters and make spangenhelms out of them that turned out ok sometimes.

George,
I was referring to Broadway's calling Beau's statement of who he has made helms for using a spun top as a base.

As for using a spun top as a base for a spangen...there is yet another perfect example of why spun tops will always have their place in armoring.

Botaro

[Agnarr]

You calling "bullshit" boarders upon libel, and is certainly slanderous.

I do not think so........

I used to get them done for fairly cheap. We would cut them into quarters and make spangenhelms out of them that turned out ok sometimes.

George,
I was referring to Broadway's calling Beau's statement of who he has made helms for using a spun top as a base.

As for using a spun top as a base for a spangen...there is yet another perfect example of why spun tops will always have their place in armoring.

Botaro

I understood that, but i don't believe it would fall under that category. I could be wrong.


PM sent to you, Botaro.

[Broadway]

Hah. You can consider it whatever you want.

When you come up, you can tell me of these Dukes.

well mat next time i'm in asheville you can take it up with me in person
i consider that comment an afront to my personal honor and i expect an apology

[Broadway]

However, it is your personal attack on Beau's claims that is highly innappropriate. I agree, you do owe him an immediate apology.

It's ok for you to be wrong about that Botaro. I don't hold it against you.

[GunnarUlfson]

brewer wrote:
If it takes a village to raise a child, I'm that asshole in the creepy old house who shoots trespassers with rock salt. What's my function in the village? I teach boundaries.

Some of the guys in the creepy old house are just douche bags and not teaching anything...

[Broadway]

But not Brewer.

brewer wrote:
If it takes a village to raise a child, I'm that asshole in the creepy old house who shoots trespassers with rock salt. What's my function in the village? I teach boundaries.

Some of the guys in the creepy old house are just douche bags and not teaching anything...

[Maeryk]

it's "borders". As in "lies alongside"

"boarders" come OVER the side, and slit yer gulliver.

Oh.. and autoplay videos in the site your are advertising in your sig file is extremely gay. Stop it now.

[Maeryk]

brewer wrote:
If it takes a village to raise a child, I'm that asshole in the creepy old house who shoots trespassers with rock salt. What's my function in the village? I teach boundaries.

Some of the guys in the creepy old house are just douche bags and not teaching anything...

GET THE HELL OFF MY LAWN!

[Ravenwulf]

Beau made this helm in these pictures about 18 years ago from the same type of heavy gauge spun-top he is offering for sale here. It was polished to a mirror finish back when I first got it and looked like a stainless steel bascinet but for half the price. Its been hit at least 5,000 times I would guess unfortunately haha.

It doesn’t dent is because it was spun from a 11 gauge piece of steel into a 12 ga top like beau is offering here- minimal spin lines and no hole in the top, and said he would negotiate on bulk. I understand how people want to jest in good humor, but I have to say that a certain level of respect is due here because this is the sca were talking about and its a real business he has an investment in and is exclusively an sca merchant, and sca merchants need all the support they can get. He was just trying to offer some spun-tops for sale here if anybody wanted to buy a few and deserves the courtesy you would expect in the sca.

Im curious where else you can find a 11/12ga spun-top. Who else sells them these days and what are the competitor’s prices for these with minimal spin lines and no hole in top?