1st Piece of My Kit on Sale at eBay - Greathelm, Torse, Mant

Bob H · Post by **Bob H** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 4:29 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1165269413

[img]http://www.bobhurley.net/ebay/greathelm.jpg[/img]

Hate to do it, but if I don't sell my heavy kit I'll get weak and go fight in it, not something I should do now.

Clay · Post by **Clay** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 5:25 pm

If you're just selling it because you're afraid you're going to fight in it, I'm sure you can just have one of your friends (i.e. me) hold it for you during your period of "weakness"

And I'll even give it back!

Bob H · Post by **Bob H** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:08 pm

Hahaha, thanks, Clay. But you'd have to hold it until I could be buried in it. They can arrest rheumatoid arthritis, but it isn't reversible.

[This message has been edited by Bob Hurley (edited 07-09-2001).]

JJ Shred · Post by **JJ Shred** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:23 pm

Come on, man. That's your crest! What are you going to display? Don't you have a stand in the living room? Read Chef's post about displaying all his armour in one room of his house.

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Virtus vincit invidiam
"Virtue overcometh envy"

Clay · Post by **Clay** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 6:44 pm

I'm with Bascot. Keep your hat!

Why not just sell the rest of your kit? Your helmet is like the centerpiece of your entire kit, and even without the rest of your armour, your helmet means a lot. Besides, its got your crest and everything on it...

Not trying to razz you or pee in your corn flakes. Just giving my (always unsolicited) opinion.

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Salinas Swordsman
Darkmoor Armoury

Bob H · Post by **Bob H** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 7:19 pm

Chef doesn't live in a little A-frame on the lake, I'll bet.

I've had fun with it, someone else's turn now.

Vitus von Atzinger · Post by **Vitus von Atzinger** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 8:39 pm

Sell it so you can get a quality fencing sword. Don't keep a toy you can't play with anymore. I used to have a 1927 Gibson arch-top guitar but playing it made my shoulder hurt so much I considered giving up fighting. I loved that guitar but why keep it if I can't play it?
Now somebody else has it, and they are enjoying it- I took the money and had fun at Pennsic.
Sell it. Get new stuff.
-V

JJ Shred · Post by **JJ Shred** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 11:08 pm

I've got an idea. It's definitely not my place to say, (though that's never stopped me before!), but why not make him King of Arms and put him in charge of the pas' de armes? (Same as before, but a new spiffy title, and he gets to wear his armour.)

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Virtus vincit invidiam
"Virtue overcometh envy"

Mad Matt · Post by **Mad Matt** » Tue Jul 10, 2001 11:42 am

You can't fight in it if the inside is filled with epoxy.

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The budding mid 14th century German Transitional guy.
Mad Matt's Armory

Edric · Post by **Edric** » Tue Jul 10, 2001 1:15 pm

Tempting, tempting, tempting.

I just bought another great helm, I have a temporary amount on cash, and dang that is a good looking hat, it would look good with my 14th century kit that I am finishing up. But I hate to take your hat away, I DID just buy a new helm(although I might end up selling it or using it as a loaner because it is rather large), and my lady would probably kill me.

On the other hand, the big helm is for her and I am afraid it may be too large, and I DO have the money right now. Maybe if it doesn't get up too high, I may try to give it a good home.

Edit::If it were just selling outright $95, I would snatch it up fastern' a coon wit a hound on his butt.

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Flos est puellarum, quam diligio, et rosa rosarum, quam sepe video.
"My love is a flower among virgins, and a rose among roses"

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chef de chambre · Post by **chef de chambre** » Tue Jul 10, 2001 10:20 pm

Bob,

Your breaking my heart. You ought to keep something as a memento. What will you practise Fiorie's armoured combat in?

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Bob R.

Murdock · Post by **Murdock** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 12:16 am

Whoever buys that helm Email me!!!

Samuel · Post by **Samuel** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 3:32 am

NO BODY BID ON THAT HELM. cant sell it without a buyer.........

Edric · Post by **Edric** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 8:22 am

Too late, someone already bid, and it wasn't me. I wasn't about to be the one to start bidding. I am actually trying to finish up a helm like this, and was planning on making a crest for it. I really like the way that one looks, you mind if I base mine off of your's Bob? This would be perfect for me if only the colors were red and gold.

I sure hope whoever gets this doesn't put it on a wall beside their "barbarian" sword. Even though I hate to see a guy loose a beautiful hat like that, I would also hate to see it just laying around getting rusty. I've always heard that saying "Wear out don't rust out." Maybe that is why he is selling it, a helm like that deserves to be on the field and not on a wall.

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--Edric--

Flos est puellarum, quam diligio, et rosa rosarum, quam sepe video.
"My love is a flower among virgins, and a rose among roses"

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 9:23 am

I'm with Chef on this one -- this is heart-rending.

Bob H · Post by **Bob H** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 12:58 pm

Oh, gee thanks guys for making it easier for me. Be sure not to bid on it, too, so I won't have enough money to fence either.

Chef, after having nearly every thing you own go up in flames, you learn just how unimportant mementos really are. I'd rather see it on the field making someone else look like a medieval knight instead of a road warrior.

Clay · Post by **Clay** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 1:03 pm

You know, we are Bob's friends, and this can't be easy for him to sell his stuff, so let him do what he wants.

But if you start wearing poofy shirts, hats with feathers in them, and tights, Bob, we're gonna disown you!

Joe Skeesick · Post by **Joe Skeesick** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 1:13 pm

Agreed Bob. As much as it troubles me to see you doing this I know the reason and I applaud how you have decided to handle the problem. Many would give up the game and go onto to other things. You simply reevaluated your options and chosen the next best thing. In doing so you opted to make sure your tools get put to use by someone else instead of gather dust and make sure your able to affoard the new tools you need. That would be tough for me to do but its the best thing.

As for you that said "don't bid on it.." I understand where you are comming from but your thoughts are misplaced. This is a decision for Bob to make and he has done so with more than a small amount of thought I'm sure. Your attempts at compasion in reality will hurt his chances at continuing to play in the same game we all love, even if it means the feathers will be on a hat instead of a helm.

Its a great helm (pardon the pun) it needs to be given a good home. I thought more than once about buying it but its just not possible at this time for me. I do hope the next owner brings honor to the field in the same way its past owner has.

Best of luck with the sales Bob.

Janos

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 1:26 pm

Bob,

If I bid on it, could you hold the helm until we get sufficant funds?

Part of the reason for my interest in biding is this:

People almost ALWAYS have no bids for days...and then there is a quick bit of bidding at the end.

If I bid now (with really non-existant funds right now), it will bring up your eventual price.

Now, if I do end up outbiding everyone, I am honor-bound to buy the item (obviously!!). What I am asking Bob, is that if I do win, could you hold onto the helm for a bit and I'll pay you in installments (and you deliver the helm ONLY when I've paid it all off)?

If you are of small stature, I could throw in a never used, but 1st try, fencing jacket (in blue, made of trigger).

Its a rather nice helm and I will miss seeing it on your head. But, if you wish to give it up, I would like it if you got a good price for it. Moving the bidding along would do that.

So, if you agree to installments (say $20/month), can I bid?

-Aaron

Bob H · Post by **Bob H** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 1:52 pm

I would, Aaron, if I could buy the fencing equipment I need on the same plan. Unfortunately, I haven't found a merchant that will go for that.

And Clay, poofy shirt?
[Monty Python Frenchman voice]"Hawl, hawl, we already got one! Itsa real nice, toooo."

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 4:33 pm

American Fencing Supply has starter sets for $133. Have you considered them? When I was going to be a fencer instead of a heavy fighter I considered them strongly...and then my wife wanted to heavy fight and make her armour....and now I'm addicted.

http://www.amfence.com/html/fencing_weapons.html
http://www.amfence.com/html/sets.html

jgalak · Post by **jgalak** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 5:10 pm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Aaron:
American Fencing Supply has starter sets for $133</font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unfortunately, those are modern sets. For not much more you can get a Triplette starting kit that at least pretends to be period.

They start at $162 for a Frace Lames foil (stay away from France Lames!!! Their proudcts (these days at least) are utter crap, and some are banned in various kingdoms). A better "absolute cheapest" set is the one with the TCA foil ($165) and better yet you can get one with an epee blade for $185 (again, stay away from Frace Lames)

The link is: http://www.triplette.com/Theatrical%20Fencing/sca%20starter%20sets.htm

One of these kits is how nearly every SCA fencer I know (myself included) started. They are a good deal. Unfortunately they give you a modern-hilted weapon. Replace that as soon as you can.

Or, if you feel your (or a friend's) sewing skills are up to it, you can make your own fencing armor (4 layer of trigger or some leather), thus needing to buy only mask, weapon, and glove.

You absolutely cannot scrimp on the mask. Buy a good 3-weapon mask. Triplette's model 1999 is good (I've been using the older model for 5 years now), as is Prieur and Dynaflow. In general, the masks that are under $65 or so aren't sufficient

Any thin leather gloves with a 3-4" cuff will do, although if you get ones for modern fencing they will have some pading (I find that unnecessary).

As for weapon, please stay away from modern epee and foil hilts. They are blatantly non-period and force you into a non-period grip. One of my hilts if from Popinjay (very nice), one was assembled from a modern epee guard and some parts from MAS Weapons (who are gone now, I think) and is being discarded, and my new one is a Triplette hilt.

From Triplette's line, I would reccomend R8 (it's what I'm getting). The R6 is also nice, but not SCA legal (for epee), and the R9, while nice, may not be legal either (consult your local marshal). Stay away from the rest (especially the R7).

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Yehuda ben Moshe
mka Juliean Galak

Rev. George · Post by **Rev. George** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 6:17 pm

Well bob, if you need a fencing rig, i might be able to help....(well except for the mask and sword)
-+G

Harold the Bear · Post by **Harold the Bear** » Wed Jul 11, 2001 7:58 pm

*Harold drops to one Knee*

DONT SELL YOUR CREST!

DONT

DONT

DONT!!!

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Harold der BÃ¤r

Ned Chaney · Post by **Ned Chaney** » Thu Jul 12, 2001 1:17 pm

I'm going to bid on this. If I win the bid I will wear the hat with honor, and donate the crest and torse to St Olaf's for display.

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They call me Ned. It's medievally short for Edward (and it's my real name)

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Jul 16, 2001 11:50 am

The price is up to $178.51!! Four hours and some minutes left to raise more money for Bob Hurley's fencing gear fund!!

I want to see who gets this!

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Jul 16, 2001 4:05 pm

14 minutes to go!!! Get those last minute, Bill Gates level bids in!!