WTB Rattan rods

[Kieran Turlough]

This might be a little bit off topic but does anyone know any good places to buy rattan rods? Preferably with the skin still on. I have seen a few places but being new to all of this I am unsure where is a buyer beware kind of place and where i can get a reliable source.

Thanks in advance from a newbie.

[Heath B fraychef]

How much and what size?

[Kieran Turlough]

I am looking for two 50 inch lengths at 1 3/4th inch. one to do a great sword with, 1 for a sparth axe handle, or some kind of great mace/hammer with.
and two 30 inch lengths of 1 1/2th inch for a mace and a small hand axe. Looking to make a few pieces to play around with.

[Bulby37]

I am not sure on the exact sizes Duke Icefalcon carries, but he responds to pms here or email. Do a search for Icefalcon Armory and look at his rattan stock. The last stick I bought was from His Grace and it came quickly.

[Ka0z]

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=SCA ... m270.l1313

just at a glance

[losthelm]

Your probibly looking for baron Erik hear on the archive.

[Heath B fraychef]

I would say baron Eric as well.

[Hanko Kal]

Your probibly looking for baron Erik hear on the archive.

This, great guy and great customer service.

[Kieran Turlough]

I suppose I will have to look for this baron Eric. Thanks for some good leads, now I just need to figure out a construction plan. Having never built any SCA weapons, how does one go about making things like axe/mace heads? Working the rattan is no issue, I have a lot of prior woodworking/hand carving experience. It just seems like there is no real right way to make them. Any suggestions?

[Bulby37]

Axes are not my area of expertise so I will leave that to those in the know, as far as Baron Eirik, search his name on the archive to pm him or search "munitions grade arms" on the facebook

[Duke Icefalcon]

I suppose I will have to look for this baron Eric. Thanks for some good leads, now I just need to figure out a construction plan. Having never built any SCA weapons, how does one go about making things like axe/mace heads? Working the rattan is no issue, I have a lot of prior woodworking/hand carving experience. It just seems like there is no real right way to make them. Any suggestions?

We can sell you the rattan and the heads. We have mace heads, ax heads and thrusting tips in stock.

http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon ... 01e-c.html

[Thomas MacFinn]

Baron Eirik's Facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Munitions ... 7058298448

Sir Vitus' Axe tutorial:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=132775

A tutorial I wrote for a rattan gladius (can be adapted to other weapons)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=147019

On maces, you have two choices: solid rattan one-piece construction or separate haft and head. If you do the latter, the head needs 1/2" of compression within it. Most home made maces use foam for the compression, often with a rattan or leather "clacker" on top of the foam so it still feels solid when hits. As a woodworker, you may prefer the one-piece construction.

[Baron Eirik]

I was not online this weekend much due to some work needs. Including a power outage here at work yesterday that created some hardware crashes.

I believe I have a few 1 3/4" sticks left, both your cuts could come out of one so that'd be $15. The 30" sticks of 1.5 would be $5 each, then shipping.

[ChristophH]

Frank's Cane and Rush, excellent service and delivery. Make sure to mention that you are SCA as he will try and get you a straighter piece of rattan. http://www.franksupply.com/

[Athanaric]

Not to take away from the others in this thread (whom I have done buisness with in the past withh good results) but I have also had good results with http://hhperkins.com/index.php/cPath/15 ... 1ae8683719

Just another option.

[Kieran Turlough]

I suppose I will have to look for this baron Eric. Thanks for some good leads, now I just need to figure out a construction plan. Having never built any SCA weapons, how does one go about making things like axe/mace heads? Working the rattan is no issue, I have a lot of prior woodworking/hand carving experience. It just seems like there is no real right way to make them. Any suggestions?

We can sell you the rattan and the heads. We have mace heads, ax heads and thrusting tips in stock.

http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon ... 01e-c.html

I actually was looking into buying a mace head from you. My only issue is you display no dimensions or specifications, inside diameter, outside, length, width, weights, things of the such.

I also fell in love with the look of your "clacker" style axe heads, its just 50 for 1 is a bit rich for me given that i have already dropped considerable sums into assembling my ensemble. Maybe during my next pay period ill put some aside for one, but everyone knows how funds go in this day and age.

Baron Eirik's Facebook page

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Munitions ... 7058298448

Sir Vitus' Axe tutorial:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=132775

A tutorial I wrote for a rattan gladius (can be adapted to other weapons)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=147019

On maces, you have two choices: solid rattan one-piece construction or separate haft and head. If you do the latter, the head needs 1/2" of compression within it. Most home made maces use foam for the compression, often with a rattan or leather "clacker" on top of the foam so it still feels solid when hits. As a woodworker, you may prefer the one-piece construction.

When you say 1 part mace, you mean basically what we use as sword analogs?

Also is there not a maximum diameter for things like that?

[Said ibn-Ali]

I suppose I will have to look for this baron Eric. Thanks for some good leads, now I just need to figure out a construction plan. Having never built any SCA weapons, how does one go about making things like axe/mace heads? Working the rattan is no issue, I have a lot of prior woodworking/hand carving experience. It just seems like there is no real right way to make them. Any suggestions?

Mace heads are easy.

As Duke Icefalcon said he has heads for sale.

Then there is my favorite, the red hexigonal Kong chew toy mace. Its easy to make.

The other option that works out well is the 2+ inch thick piece of rattan that is shaved down along the haft and the handle to 1.25inches keeping a pronounced head for the striking surface. This works great too. And oddly enough is the cheapest to make, but the most labour intensive.

[Thomas MacFinn]

When you say 1 part mace, you mean basically what we use as sword analogs?

Also is there not a maximum diameter for things like that?

2.5" seems to be the max simply because it has become nearly impossible to find thicker rattan.

[Duke Icefalcon]

I suppose I will have to look for this baron Eric. Thanks for some good leads, now I just need to figure out a construction plan. Having never built any SCA weapons, how does one go about making things like axe/mace heads? Working the rattan is no issue, I have a lot of prior woodworking/hand carving experience. It just seems like there is no real right way to make them. Any suggestions?

We can sell you the rattan and the heads. We have mace heads, ax heads and thrusting tips in stock.

http://store.fastcommerce.com/icefalcon ... 01e-c.html

I actually was looking into buying a mace head from you. My only issue is you display no dimensions or specifications, inside diameter, outside, length, width, weights, things of the such.

I also fell in love with the look of your "clacker" style axe heads, its just 50 for 1 is a bit rich for me given that i have already dropped considerable sums into assembling my ensemble. Maybe during my next pay period ill put some aside for one, but everyone knows how funds go in this day and age.


I will get some data up as soon as I get some time out of the shop. Never had a down period this year. The clackler heads are $25 and $35 for the large. Not sure where you got $50 from....

Cheers!

Ice

[Kieran Turlough]

I will get some data up as soon as I get some time out of the shop. Never had a down period this year. The clackler heads are $25 and $35 for the large. Not sure where you got $50 from....

Cheers!

Ice

whoops. saw the $49.00 thanks for the clarification. perhaps I can afford one. still need the dimensions.

When you say 1 part mace, you mean basically what we use as sword analogs?

Also is there not a maximum diameter for things like that?

2.5" seems to be the max simply because it has become nearly impossible to find thicker rattan.

wow those are rather nice. 2.5 inch you say? that would make exactly what im looking to do in a mace. thanks for the idea.

[Konstantin the Red]

Keiran, consider also the large size Kong dog toy, the one that looks like a red snowman. Bonks well. You might even find the large size Kong "ball," an octagonal affair that looked more like a flanged mace head than the snowman. But they don't seem to make that one any more.

Mace flanges can be built of sawn lengths of rattan glued and taped to the warhead end of the mace haft, with or without any resilient additions as your Kingdom may require.

Building rattan weaponry is easy. Your best tool is a carpenters' rasp, particularly for shaping a sword grip to fit your hand. The rest is just slightly-modify-the-stave. Maybe plane on some flats for a sword. Leave as much of the yellow skin on the stave as possible; that increases durability. Some will cover striking edges with a strip of leather to cushion it just a bit and help it not break. Almost everything goes together with abundant use of nylon strapping tape. You can get fancy later.

Like so -- for a sword. This is not the minimum standard -- it is pretty maximum.

Less how-to, but 16 pages long & pix too: Show us your best lookng [sic] SCA weapons. What can be done for pretty arms.

[Thomas MacFinn]

Like so -- for a sword. This is not the minimum standard -- it is pretty maximum.

Nice thread. I gave it a little bump so more people see it.

[Kieran Turlough]

Some of this stuff is rather interesting. I'm surprised to see how nice rattan can look when carved well, as opposed to the "stick with duct-tape" that seems to be the norm. I think im going to see if i cant find some 2.5 inch, I am starting to love the idea of a solid nicely carved mace. Still need to figure out the axe, hopefully ill be able to order soon and show off some carving skills on here.