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U.S. Made Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/BotN)

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:45 pm
by Craig Nadler
I'm conducting a market survey for linseed oil blackened spring steel Sugarloaf helms made for ACL/Botn made from 0.083" 1050 spring steel hardened to a Rc40-42 hardness. I have a design based the the sugarloaf helmet shown below, but without the brass cross, with more breath holes, and with three tabs evenly spaced over the eye slots. The construction would be done entirely in the USA and using modern computer controlled heat treating equipment.

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Linseed Oil Blackened Armour:
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This web page has the AutoCAD DXF patterns that would be used for the helm. You can see the breath hole pattern and three eye slot tabs.
http://nadler.us/sugarloaf.html

Who would be willing to pay $600 for one of these helmets?


Best Regards,

Craig Nadler

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:14 pm
by Thaddeus
I think $600 sounds like a steal personally.

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:43 pm
by Saritor
Thaddeus wrote:I think $600 sounds like a steal personally.
Yeah, same here. That's an unbelievable price, especially for something being made here in the US!

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:45 pm
by Syrfinn
Yeah, honestly, though ACL is kind of up in the air with me right now. I think I would save some cash to get this, for down the road.

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:35 am
by Gurahl
I would. Is this going to be a group order or commission style?

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:24 am
by Craig Nadler
My main goal is the get more ACL/BotN armour to the off-the-shelf market so that the sport can grow. It's more the case that I'm trying to encourage armourers to get into this market. However, a group order may be an interesting idea that I'd at least entertain.

I shipped a plate set that I built to a full time armourer in the U.S. to be shaped and assembled. When I get the helm back I'll heat treat, blacken, and post photos of it. The business details for addition helms remain to be worked out. If enough people are interested in a group order, then I'll do what I can to facilitate it, but I'm not going to be hammering out helmets.

The point that I'm trying to make is that producing basic ACL/BotN helmets from laser cut 1050 or 4130 plate sets then sending the helmets out to be heat treated can greatly reduce the shop hours per helmet. I've already told Jamie at Polar Bear Forge that he is more than welcome to sell plate sets cut from any of my CAD patterns that I make freely available to everyone.

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:08 pm
by Therion
Nice.

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:13 am
by Craig Nadler
This is one of the 1st two prototypes for a spring steel ACL/BotN starter helmet. It should fit a head size of 22" with 1" of padding and 23" with 3/4" of padding. The helmet is made from 0.083" 1050 carbon steel. The plan is to produce another 4 to 8 helmets in 1050 spring steel and then switch to 410 stainless steel.

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I decided to keep it for my own use.

Re: U.S. Made Blackened Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/Bo

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 9:47 pm
by Craig Nadler
I decided to keep it for my own use.

Re: U.S. Made Spring Steel Sugarloaf Helms (ACL/BotN)

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:54 pm
by Craig Nadler
I'm putting the phototype for my Sugarloaf helm back up for sale. I removed the blackening on the outside and put a Formax Satin-Glu 60 grit finish on it. Please note the small patch weld on the top where I filled in a burn though hole from the welding. This is a prototype / 2nd quality piece so the price is only $480 + shipping.

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