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New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:09 pm
by Mikael d'Armstreet
Hi, guys. What do you think about this?

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Site: http://armstreet.com/store/armor/hourgl ... -armor-sca

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:12 pm
by white mountain armoury
Its very pretty with a lot of nice brass work and etchings but it lacks a lot of shaping in the knuckle area

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:18 pm
by RoundTop
seconded about the knuckles. In your site pic with the first closed it looks like a gap is forming, and I certainly wouldn't want to punch anyone with those on due to that.

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:36 pm
by Smashedfrog
That brass work and etching is definitely great looking. Are you planning on offering other pieces with the same design?

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:39 pm
by Paladin74
Wow that's a nice looking gauntlet; but I echo the other sentiments- knuckle area needs work.

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:10 pm
by Lloyd
Paladin74 wrote:Wow that's a nice looking gauntlet; but I echo the other sentiments- knuckle area needs work.
http://armstreet.com/catalogue/full/hou ... -sca-2.jpg

I'll joust in that in a heartbeat (with a matching helm and ecranche, of course!) :twisted:

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:19 pm
by Uilliam Le Syngur Ingelrie
I have a boner...

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:45 pm
by Jonathon More
ditto on the knuckles, also I don't see a knuckle rider. drop dead gorgeous engraving and brasswork all in all.

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:28 am
by Mikael d'Armstreet
Smashedfrog wrote:That brass work and etching is definitely great looking. Are you planning on offering other pieces with the same design?
Definitely yes!

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:29 am
by Mikael d'Armstreet
Knuckles...Well, we'll discuss knuckles area. Thank you

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:02 am
by Mikael d'Armstreet
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Site: http://armstreet.com/store/armor/hourgl ... ings-guard

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:31 pm
by swansman
"Good God, why should they mock poor fellows thus?" :lol:

Those leather covered ones are very nice, and I can't wait to see the Churburg breastplate with the faulds come out.

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:48 am
by Jonathon Janusz
Lloyd asked that I post a few comments.

On the covered ones - nice! Much closer to the "typical" aesthetic; the etching on the polished ones was nicely executed but (please forgive and correct me if I'm wrong) the gauntlets predate that decoration technique by a few hundred years, and the pattern seems. . . off. . . stylistically for the period. I know that engraving vs. etching is really splitting hairs, but what we're looking at here are representative of far higher station than munitions grade work.

The knuckles on both examples still seem under formed, a little chunky. Unless the fingers on these are built as grounding SCA-style, then please disregard.

Last, am i missing it in the photos, but is the knuckle rider plate missing? Again, not saying it is an absolute, but having it would improve the function of the gauntlets as protection and I think would be more in line construction-wise with the level of embellishment you have presented here.



That aside, I've said privately before that I don't think I know of another shop on a production scale doing the level and quality of etching work your shop is doing. I really think that if you spent some time studying 16th century examples to get the decorative patterns down stylistically, and applied same to quality 16th century armor pieces, that you would really have the attention of very late period living history folks.

Fine work! Very inspiring!

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:56 pm
by Mikael d'Armstreet
Jonathon Janusz wrote:Lloyd asked that I post a few comments.
Thank you for doing this and thanks to Lloyd for asking.
We accept any reasonable criticism and professional opinion. That's really matters and important for us.
I have to say you are way right.
Gauntlets design is actually earlier then most of the etched historical pieces though there are some this period museum pieces (not gauntlets) which has etched patterns. So we definitely can't insist this design is true to period but it might. We just love "Hourglass" finger-gauntlets and wanted to combine them with etched decorations. For period maniacs we have plain steel ones.

We made leather-covered ones at same time to stainless so before the discussion about knuckles. These has better knuckles but we already discussed how we can improve knuckles on both so I'm really thankful for this suggestion and we will do that.
Thank you for helping us to be better :lol:

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 1:39 pm
by Lloyd
Mike, Jon has a great eye and is extremely knowledgeable on 14th century and up armour particulars. Jon was at my house last week and we were discussing the new armour and he had so many good points that I wanted to make sure that he passed them on so that I didn't leave any out.

Jon understands that you are using the etching to give earlier pieces, that usually didn't have such decoration, an extremely cool "upgrade" that will be popular with SCA and even Buhurt fighters. We were discussing this last night and he made a good point that you have the inside track on being able to provide quality historically-accurate armour for those that need/want that level of authenticity while still being able to provide dead sexy "sport" armour at extremely reasonable prices.

Mike, here is a good picture of the rocker plate that folks are commenting on - this is by Jeffery Wasson:

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As for me, I can't wait to joust in the new gear ;)

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:52 pm
by stephen.besinaiz
I will buy me a pair soon! Look out man!

Re: New armour series: finger gauntlets

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:59 am
by Mikael d'Armstreet
Lloyd wrote: Mike, here is a good picture of the rocker plate that folks are commenting on - this is by Jeffery Wasson:
Thank you! Improving your knowledge and skills is endless way. Thank you for sharing, it is pretty informative..