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WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:15 pm
by Jason Grimes
I'm looking to buy a mid 14th century sword with a diamond cross-section like a Oakeshott type XV. I have at least $400.0 in the budget and would like to get as high as quality as I can. Even if that means just the blade, I can make the rest of the hardware. Any links would be most appreciated. Thanks,

Jason

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:38 pm
by boris_
Talk to Baltimore Knife and Sword

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:01 pm
by Ironbadger
I don't have any suitable steel in stock, or I'd offer.

-Badger-

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:19 pm
by Jason Grimes
boris_ wrote:Talk to Baltimore Knife and Sword
Thanks, I will look into them. :)

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:19 pm
by Jason Grimes
Ironbadger wrote:I don't have any suitable steel in stock, or I'd offer.

-Badger-

Darn :(

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:43 pm
by Cian of Storvik
Save-up a bit more money and keep an eye out on MyArmoury or swordbuyersguide and you might be able to pick-up a Poitiers by Albion or a Duke of Urbino from A&A at a second hand price. That's if you're married to the acute profiled XV.

XVI, XVII and XVIII are also swords that appear in the mid to late 14th century.

You didn't mention if you would be willing to consider a longsword. Hanwei Tinker sells a replacement blade that is a type XVIa which you could add your own hardware to.
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XVI's
Museum Replicas has the "European Sword" on close-out; $215 for the sharpened version. For Albion, it is represented by their Prince and the Squire. The squire would be the cheaper of these last two, but even second hand, it would probably run $750 in good condition.

XVII's
Albion Sempach and Landgraf are the only XVII's that I'm aware of. But despite a sword type that has little reproduced representation, Oakeshott said of the XVII, "English monuments between circa 1355 and 1425 show them almost exclusively."

XVIII's
Museum replicas had a sword called the Arbedo that is no longer produced but is pretty nice if someone is willing to part with it. I think one appeared on the MyArmoury sales boards about a year ago, and the person wanted around $250 for it.
Edward the III by Hanwei was a nice sword. They occasionally come up on Ebay or myarmory boards.

-Cian

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:53 pm
by Ironbadger
Hmm....

What would be a typical- Or desired- blade length in a type XV?

I looked it up and found it was a single hand style.
At around a 25 inch blade, it might be possible with what I have on hand.
Longer, and it would have to wait until I have my gas forge at last, and a supply of the 5160 I plan to switch to for swords.

Provided all of my plans work out, and I actually manage to set things up the way I want.

-Badger-

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:26 am
by Jason Grimes
Thanks Cian, the kultofathena blade is very interesting. But looking at the pictures it looks like it will require a lot of finish work to get it looking good. I'm definitely looking at the others you listed as well, most are unfortunately out of my price range. :(

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 12:26 am
by Jason Grimes
Iron Badger, I really like your work and would like to work out a purchase. 25 inches is a bit too short I think, I was more thinking at least 30". I'm not in any hurry, so how long will it be before you are able to start work on a longer blade? We can go to a PM if you like. Thanks,

Jason

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:25 pm
by Ironbadger
PMed.


-Badger-

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:33 pm
by Greyholt
Greetings!

Albion sells some very high quality bare blades... I have two of them and am very impressed (Type X & Type XVI). They have a Type XVIII longsword blank for $240, which is probably close enough to a XV that with a little reshaping should work pretty well. The total length is 42.5" with a 34" blade. It does require a final grind and polish however, but the lines are very crisp to begin with.

This is exactly what I had hoped to do in the future.

Here's the link: https://www.albion-swords.com/bareblades.htm

Hope this helps! :)


Greyholt......................

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:36 pm
by Greyholt
Sorry, double post deleted...

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:49 pm
by Jason Grimes
Thanks Greyholt, I will check them out too, although I don't have the equipment to do grinding. :(

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:00 pm
by boris_
Greyholt wrote:Greetings!

Albion sells some very high quality bare blades... I have two of them and am very impressed (Type X & Type XVI). They have a Type XVIII longsword blank for $240, which is probably close enough to a XV that with a little reshaping should work pretty well. The total length is 42.5" with a 34" blade. It does require a final grind and polish however, but the lines are very crisp to begin with.

This is exactly what I had hoped to do in the future.

Here's the link: https://www.albion-swords.com/bareblades.htm

Hope this helps! :)


Greyholt......................
Not to take this off topic, but does anyone know if these would be under the same warranty as the other stuff?

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:21 pm
by Greyholt
Boris, this is what I found: https://www.albion-swords.com/returns.htm

I could be wrong, but it seems only the Moat Sale items are "as is"...



Greyholt...............

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 5:28 pm
by Greyholt
Jason,

If you're not going to change the shape or put sharp edges on it, all you might need are some sanding blocks and a bit of elbow grease... :wink:

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:00 pm
by Ironbadger
Hmmm....
Speaking as a very experienced knifemaker, I think you'd find that approach more difficult than you think.

I've made knives from barstock, using only files and sandpaper.
Modified existing blades that way, too.

Its...A LOT of work and time.

It can be done...If you don't mind spending literally months on a single blade.

-Badger-

Greyholt wrote:Jason,

If you're not going to change the shape or put sharp edges on it, all you might need are some sanding blocks and a bit of elbow grease... :wink:

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:16 pm
by Mlanteigne
Have you looked at Valiant Armoury? Good reviews...I have their Crusader Arming sword and I love. AND it comes with a nice scabbard. Sonny will also do custom colours.

http://www.valiant-armoury.com/index.ph ... duct_id=62

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:00 pm
by boris_
Greyholt wrote:Boris, this is what I found: https://www.albion-swords.com/returns.htm

I could be wrong, but it seems only the Moat Sale items are "as is"...



Greyholt...............
I emailed them and they said that there is no warranty on the bare blades.

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:51 pm
by Keith_Stratton
SGT Blades in Canada do good work. Plus, you get that sweet sweet CAD to USD discount.

https://www.facebook.com/sgtblades/?fref=ts

Re: WTB Mid 14th century sword

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:50 pm
by Paladin74
I'd talk to Sonny over at Valiant Armoury (www.valiant-armoury.com) - I think that's the link. At your price point he could probably do up a nice package...all of their swords come with leather covered wooden scabbards with nice details, especially at that price point.

Edit: I should've read all of the posts, Mlanteigne already suggested it, so I'll second that.