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CAS Iberia brand new War Sword for sale!

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Brand new in box with a nice leather and wood scabbard. Comes with edge and oiled up. Very nice. Im selling it for $95.00 plus shipping. They sell for $175.00 plus shipping. It was bought for a buddy of mine who decided to not have the money to pay me. So im selling it really cheap!. They are out of stock on thier site. But I have one !

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http://casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=SH2366
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Okay.. is that a "wubba" sword, as in, when you shake the handle it goes "wubba wubba"? Iberia made some damn good, strong swords, and they have made some really really light-weight crap (the second run of the Agincourt wire-wrapped hilt sword, as an example).
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Maeryk- Wow! wubba wubba and light weight crap. great way to describe something. Is that a blanket statement for any such use this sword may have?

I will endeavor to describe this sword and its histroy for you and others. CAS iberai used to sell this sword that they had made in the phillipines. It was 3lbs 10 oz and thick! The blade was dull and the tip was a bit rounded. It came in brass as well as steel for the crossguard and pommel. It came without a scabbard. This nice looking beast was very heavy for a one handed sword but if you were in a steel group and wanted something more period to take up against a guy with a starfire it was the perfect choice. But then again some might say crowbar and heavy pice of crap huh?
If a steel fighter wanted to own a thinner bladed spring steel or more flexable blade with some and the less flexable more stout blade with others (which we call here in our steel group showing a point o chivalry to match weapons as not to destroy a fellows sword) then he would have the option to do so by owning these two diff swords.
Back to history of cas war sword. They decided to stop importing from this one company and have decided to make it on thier own(no not in TN but thier more direct contacts overseas they work very closer with) . The result of this is a much lighter more flexable sharp steel sword with the same hilt and pommel configuration albiet with steel only at this time. They added a really nice wooden and leather scabbard.
In my opinion if you do steel I would say to purchase a paul chen practical in the same price range for a flexable weapon and a thick beater from knightsedge for taking up against a starfire. Both are good for the money spent. Again I say for the money spent. In my game (Adria) you never know what a guy will take the filed with. I would never take a albion to the Adria filed when my opponent might have a home made boheamith or a larger starfire or Kerry. Why would I put that kind of money in an albion up against this? Its not good sense.

So if someone wants a brand new very nice medieval looking sharp flexable steel sword in a nicely made scabbard for half the cost new and can display it or do cuttings with or use for faire this is for you. If you want a crobar do not buy it. If you want to use it for steel combat and will be grinding down the tip and edges I would rather sell you a paul chen practical in same price range. as I am a dealer

But I would appreciate it if the first post I get not to ask/infer if this is a piece of crap. I do not feel like Im being out of line on this.
I mean we all agree that a mini cooper is a lousy full size pick up right? But its hard to make a genaeral statement on a vehicle untill we know what the vehicle is and what it will be used for. And ask in a less abrasive way. It is recieved better that way.

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Stephen wrote:Maeryk- Wow! wubba wubba and light weight crap. great way to describe something. Is that a blanket statement for any such use this sword may have?

I will endeavor to describe this sword and its histroy for you and others. CAS iberai used to sell this sword that they had made in the phillipines. It was 3lbs 10 oz and thick! The blade was dull and the tip was a bit rounded. It came in brass as well as steel for the crossguard and pommel. It came without a scabbard. This nice looking beast was very heavy for a one handed sword but if you were in a steel group and wanted something more period to take up against a guy with a starfire it was the perfect choice. But then again some might say crowbar and heavy pice of crap huh?
If a steel fighter wanted to own a thinner bladed spring steel or more flexable blade with some and the less flexable more stout blade with others (which we call here in our steel group showing a point o chivalry to match weapons as not to destroy a fellows sword) then he would have the option to do so by owning these two diff swords.
Back to history of cas war sword. They decided to stop importing from this one company and have decided to make it on thier own(no not in TN but thier more direct contacts overseas they work very closer with) . The result of this is a much lighter more flexable sharp steel sword with the same hilt and pommel configuration albiet with steel only at this time. They added a really nice wooden and leather scabbard.
In my opinion if you do steel I would say to purchase a paul chen practical in the same price range for a flexable weapon and a thick beater from knightsedge for taking up against a starfire. Both are good for the money spent. Again I say for the money spent. In my game (Adria) you never know what a guy will take the filed with. I would never take a albion to the Adria filed when my opponent might have a home made boheamith or a larger starfire or Kerry. Why would I put that kind of money in an albion up against this? Its not good sense.

So if someone wants a brand new very nice medieval looking sharp flexable steel sword in a nicely made scabbard for half the cost new and can display it or do cuttings with or use for faire this is for you. If you want a crobar do not buy it. If you want to use it for steel combat and will be grinding down the tip and edges I would rather sell you a paul chen practical in same price range. as I am a dealer

But I would appreciate it if the first post I get not to ask/infer if this is a piece of crap. I do not feel like Im being out of line on this.
I mean we all agree that a mini cooper is a lousy full size pick up right? But its hard to make a genaeral statement on a vehicle untill we know what the vehicle is and what it will be used for. And ask in a less abrasive way. It is recieved better that way.

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There's a reason I asked. Iberia has made really stiff stuff, and some not so stiff stuff. I asked which category this fell into.

Some swords should have a bit of flex, but they put some out you could use as sound effect generators for old time radio shows.

And those (The wubbas) are great carry pieces and wall hangars. And for the price you are asking, it would make an exceptional sword for that.


Get your back down. I wasn't inferring you manufactured it or anything. Sheesh.
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It really is a practical question to ask, Stephen. Since we can't grope the blade and wave it around on the internet, we have to ask. It is an inexpensive blade, and inexpensive blades can vary widely in quality. People on the AA can be a rather picky lot, and when someone asks a question like that it is much better to say "AH! Thank you for asking! No, this blade is not a lightweight piece of crap, and does not wubbawubba in the handle."


I will say that this is a pretty good deal, really.
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I understand your concerns people and thats why I responded with as much info as possible. I was referring to the way it was asked. I wouldent have gotten my back up (and it was only a tiny bit up) if the question was maybe a bit more adult in its wording. Thats all. Im not mad just thought the question should have been wordred a bit more polite. excuse me for that. I will refrain from expecting that in the future.


So its a pretty fucking cool sword for the dough dude. some might find it a bit shitty but what the fuck its a good deal. If no one wants it so so fucking be it. anyway rock on peeps.

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Stephen wrote:I understand your concerns people and thats why I responded with as much info as possible. I was referring to the way it was asked. I wouldent have gotten my back up (and it was only a tiny bit up) if the question was maybe a bit more adult in its wording. Thats all. Im not mad just thought the question should have been wordred a bit more polite. excuse me for that. I will refrain from expecting that in the future.


So its a pretty fucking cool sword for the dough dude. some might find it a bit shitty but what the fuck its a good deal. If no one wants it so so fucking be it. anyway rock on peeps.

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"adult" in it's wording?

SInce you like the word try this:

F**k YOU!

You didn't specify whether the sword was suitable for live steel, or merely a wall hanger, so I asked. Nothing more.
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Hey you forgot to use a smiley face. its ok though really. Its not worth arguing about. I should have posted the full description and differences between the types of sword cas sells to begin with. it really is my fault for not doing that. I was just not expecting "is a piece of crap?" question worded like that. So there is really no need for the fuck you comment.
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Im just gonan send it back for dealer credit. Just thought I would sell it for cost to someone on the archive. Sort of like when I pay tax and shipping when I sell to archivers.

no biggie
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Stephen wrote:Hey you forgot to use a smiley face. its ok though really. Its not worth arguing about. I should have posted the full description and differences between the types of sword cas sells to begin with. it really is my fault for not doing that. I was just not expecting "is a piece of crap?" question worded like that. So there is really no need for the fuck you comment.
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Well, if you are an Iberia dealer, you know DAMN WELL they have sold some pieces that are crap over the years. I'm highly unlikely to buy, sight unseen, something from someone I don't know from adam, especially at nearly 50% off the list. Ya know?

There's been plenty of sketchy deals on the Archive. Not saying, or making it sound, or anything, that _you_ are one of them. But I'd much rather ask _up front_ than find out the hard way.

Plus, if you ever handled one of the second run Agincourts, you'd know exactly what I mean. They were _SEVERELY_ whippy swords.. to the point where the tip would deflect a good two or three inches just swinging it in the air. I find it _really_ hard to believe any medieval sword ever did that.
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I think I see the problem. I just dont care for your writing style and tone. Its fairly abrassive. I personally think you could word things a bit different. But thats me. And no I dont have thin skin. I just was hoping for a bit more of a civil tone. I just read your last response and it clicked to me.
I agree we all have worries about internet dealings. But I thik you are raising flags and defences really high and quick. I myself have been taken for too much money than I care to think. But its been a long time since that has happen becasue I got better at reading people online. But even during all that I did not put forth (in teh beginning) a abbrassive barrier. it just made it harder to actuallu have a pleasent dealing with someone when you start out like that.

It takes time. You will either develop it or will not. You will miss out on some good dealing with honorable adults. But you will also not get taken too much by shifty people either. So both points have a bit of validity.

take care and do well in your dealings.
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Man, if I hadn't jumped on that Practical CasIberia sword, I would have gotten it....Still see some my Adria buddies from time to time and now that I actually have some armour, I would love to do some rebated steel fighting.

If it's still up for grabs in a couple of weeks...I do it Stephan..
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Stephen wrote:I think I see the problem. I just dont care for your writing style and tone. Its fairly abrassive. I personally think you could word things a bit different. But thats me. And no I dont have thin skin. I just was hoping for a bit more of a civil tone. I just read your last response and it clicked to me.
I agree we all have worries about internet dealings. But I thik you are raising flags and defences really high and quick. I myself have been taken for too much money than I care to think. But its been a long time since that has happen becasue I got better at reading people online. But even during all that I did not put forth (in teh beginning) a abbrassive barrier. it just made it harder to actuallu have a pleasent dealing with someone when you start out like that.

It takes time. You will either develop it or will not. You will miss out on some good dealing with honorable adults. But you will also not get taken too much by shifty people either. So both points have a bit of validity.

take care and do well in your dealings.


Well, if that's what you call "abrasive" then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

You might work on the condescencion a bit.
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I apologize, Im sorry, your right! I am thin skinned and condesending. Middle aged bald and overweight to boot. And even worse I have always been a bit slow. Hell this last to duck award and scar tissue I got from lebanon will attest to that. LOL. Did I mention bald? Oh yes i see I did. Its not worth it man! Just stop posting for petes sake!
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Geesh! :shock: This auction kinda tuned into a Hissy Fit. Don't you guys think you could both act the part of chivalrous gentlemen and settle down a bit. Lets be civil here. :roll:
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Crimthann mac Ceadda wrote:Geesh! :shock: This auction kinda tuned into a Hissy Fit. Don't you guys think you could both act the part of chivalrous gentlemen and settle down a bit. Lets be civil here. :roll:


WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSE TO MEAN????!!!!!!

I'm sorry, lets not fight. :lol:
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Also, I think we need a patented Baron Alejandro "Girls, your both pretty"
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Crimthann mac Ceadda wrote:Geesh! :shock: This auction kinda tuned into a Hissy Fit. Don't you guys think you could both act the part of chivalrous gentlemen and settle down a bit. Lets be civil here. :roll:


No. I don't react well to being called childish and/or immature. And I don't think Chivalry has a damn thing to do with letting a slap in the face go unanswered, do you?
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This thread = /fail.

Although, as a restaurant manager, it makes me curious how anyone can be a dealer/business owner of anything with such a short fuse.

I mean, I would understand if there were a custom project someone did themself that's worth 4,000 usd in non-traditional mounts....but this is about a low end production sword.

This thread is like the equivalent to a couple guys getting in a knock down, drag out fight over whether or not a Windlass sword is a good cutter.

Just my 2c. And I would have bought this sword if the post was minus all the drama. I hope all the potential sellers file that information away and convert it to wisdom so we can see less pissing matches like this in the future.

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AK

I'm gonna give this one to you, 'cause you are new.

Maeryk, though a very intelligent and pretty cool guy, has a tendency of being abrasive.

Very abrasive.
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And I can attest that Stephan is a very good business man...These two just are having one of them days...Thats all.
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AK wrote:This thread = /fail.

Although, as a restaurant manager, it makes me curious how anyone can be a dealer/business owner of anything with such a short fuse.

I mean, I would understand if there were a custom project someone did themself that's worth 4,000 usd in non-traditional mounts....but this is about a low end production sword.

This thread is like the equivalent to a couple guys getting in a knock down, drag out fight over whether or not a Windlass sword is a good cutter.

Just my 2c. And I would have bought this sword if the post was minus all the drama. I hope all the potential sellers file that information away and convert it to wisdom so we can see less pissing matches like this in the future.

When two people fight on the internet, nobody wins.


Hey.. I never _said_ it was a crap sword. I asked. I have one Iberia I can (and have) cut down a christmas tree with. I have another that I could bend into a "C" with little effort and have it spring back.

I'm looking for another of the tree-cutter type, but have no need for another *sproing* sword.

That's _ALL_ I was asking.

And, for a while, Iberia made some _really_ scary blades.

I meant no sleight on Stephan as a businessman, nor on his integrity. I merely asked.
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Mayrek wrote "I'm looking for another of the tree-cutter type, but have no need for another *sproing* sword. "

I have found recently since paul Chen bought cas iberia that most of teh thiscker tree cutter swords are not in production anymore and he is mainly producing the thinner flex typw. The only ones I have personally seen with any thickness to them and no so much spriong is teh lowlander(held one last week) and a little bit of the practical hand and a half. Even those are spring steel and have a vibration. The old school cas iberia stuff with the blades 1/8 thick and heavy duty are not being produced much. I think you would be able to find them on ebay or posted here once in a while though. Sorta like the del tin from old museum replica snow now no more vs the windless vs atlanta cutlery threesome. Even cas iberia had such a threesome conflict with the 3 generations of practicals and as you stated the agincourt generations.
So you are correct sir when you mention sword companies and thier changes. It happens more often then anybody would like. I mean just look at Albion, the yhave geat swords and then they have.....well, great swords. Ok that was not a good example ;-)

Like I said I apologize if this day I took your post as too abrasive. You made good points. I just felt a few things were a bit much.

This sword that I got in just the other day ran me $87.50 (ask any cas dealer) plus shipping and I have to pay the tax on it. So you see I am selling it for NO Profit at all to archivers. Just figured I would offer it up to the people here before either sending it back or the ebay route.

I know it does seem weird that a guy would sell it that cheap and new but I try to give back to archive members since there has been alot of great dealinga and info that I have had on here. Heck when I sell most items to archivers I make a average of $20.00 per deal. So you see selling to archivers is NOT wear I make my money and I am OK with that.
I hope we can put this behind us now.

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Stephen wrote:Mayrek wrote "I'm looking for another of the tree-cutter type, but have no need for another *sproing* sword. "

I have found recently since paul Chen bought cas iberia that most of teh thiscker tree cutter swords are not in production anymore and he is mainly producing the thinner flex typw. The only ones I have personally seen with any thickness to them and no so much spriong is teh lowlander(held one last week) and a little bit of the practical hand and a half. Even those are spring steel and have a vibration. The old school cas iberia stuff with the blades 1/8 thick and heavy duty are not being produced much. I think you would be able to find them on ebay or posted here once in a while though. Sorta like the del tin from old museum replica snow now no more vs the windless vs atlanta cutlery threesome. Even cas iberia had such a threesome conflict with the 3 generations of practicals and as you stated the agincourt generations.
So you are correct sir when you mention sword companies and thier changes. It happens more often then anybody would like. I mean just look at Albion, the yhave geat swords and then they have.....well, great swords. Ok that was not a good example ;-)

Like I said I apologize if this day I took your post as too abrasive. You made good points. I just felt a few things were a bit much.

This sword that I got in just the other day ran me $87.50 (ask any cas dealer) plus shipping and I have to pay the tax on it. So you see I am selling it for NO Profit at all to archivers. Just figured I would offer it up to the people here before either sending it back or the ebay route.

I know it does seem weird that a guy would sell it that cheap and new but I try to give back to archive members since there has been alot of great dealinga and info that I have had on here. Heck when I sell most items to archivers I make a average of $20.00 per deal. So you see selling to archivers is NOT wear I make my money and I am OK with that.
I hope we can put this behind us now.

Stephen


AH! It's all good then. I didn't mention to at any point question your integrity! I have one of the prototype "Hawkwing crusader" blades, which were (if I remember correctly) made out of old saw blades used for cutting mahogany :shock: That thing, and it's corresponding dagger, are absolute freight trains of swords.

I have one of their middle-period Katanas, too, and it's a nice practical sword, and I have one of the aforementioned Agincourts, which is just *silly* whippy.

I doubt they are making anything that whippy anymore, and I suspect it was merely an aberration with that model, and that production run, more than a shift towards really whippy blades overall!

Good luck with the sale. I seriously hope you can find it a good home!
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