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stolen armor? Or maybe this guy bought it from a guy who did

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:56 am
by Stephen

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:05 am
by Klaus the Red
Well, he clearly knows nothing about armor- he's got the breastplate upside-down and the arms where the legs should be. "Got it from an estate sale" could be legitimate, but even if so, the original seller had to be pretty daft to let an entire Icefalcon suit go for $200.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:11 am
by Charles Alexander
Klaus the Red wrote:Well, he clearly knows nothing about armor- he's got the breastplate upside-down and the arms where the legs should be. "Got it from an estate sale" could be legitimate, but even if so, the original seller had to be pretty daft to let an entire Icefalcon suit go for $200.


LOL. Imagine him trying to put it on that way. :lol:

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:17 am
by David S
If i had some extra cash, I would snap this baby up.

He clearly isn't using a stock photo, so this is more likely to be a non-fraudulent auction. However, if these items are stolen, maybe the person whose items they are will notice them here.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:24 am
by sean of the chipendales
He also wants 200 in shipping. :shock:

Sean of the Chipendales

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:34 am
by InsaneIrish
sean of the chipendales wrote:He also wants 200 in shipping. :shock:

Sean of the Chipendales


Yeah, I saw that.

I was tempted to put a bid in, but damn, $200 shipping...

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:41 am
by Aerimus13
I looked at the feedback. The person is in Germany and a lot of the feedback talks about them being a good buyer. If the person can't tell where they are really from I don't think they can be trusted.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:43 am
by William of Otterton
"quality leather rivets"

and apparently it's chrome...

gah.

I'm going to forward this link to the Ealdormere elist just in case. I don't recall any stolen armour locally but someone may, on the off chance, recognize it if it is.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:47 am
by hrolf
the fact that he only takes money orders and personal checks is a big flashing warning sign to me.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:47 am
by Broadway
A blind man could tell that that is Icefalcon stainless armour.

At $200 + $200 shipping, that's still the deal of a lifetime.

The helm itself is probably more than $600 new.

Wish I wasn't dead broke.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:56 am
by Cian of Storvik
It says Thurmont, Maryland. That's driving distance (1.5 hrs) from me :twisted:
-Cian

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:01 am
by Baron Gaston
the item location is Thurmont, Maryland, United States so is the seller I am not sure where we got Germany from.

Anyone from northern Atlantia remember someone fighitng in a full Ice suit like that?

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:32 am
by Apollonian
Not many people pick up an entire suit. Ice might remember something.

Falcone

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:56 am
by Calder
"Estate Sale" is a pretty common term used for things that are from an "unknown" or "questionable" background (although I guess in all reality, it could have been legit) that often keeps Ebay from flagging anything as strange. Although having sold stuff on there recently, I am surprised they are letting $200 for S/H fly....especially within the US....new policies are supposed to prevent sellers from making excessive profit on s/h...

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:08 am
by Calder
Anyone get any size info? Probably should wait to hear from Ice first, in case he knows of any shady past to this rig....

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:21 am
by Aerimus13
My fault about the german thing. I read the feedback wrong.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:30 pm
by Aerimus13
it is up to 455 bucks now. Oh well I want Greek armor anyway.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:43 pm
by Dierick
Not only is the breastplate upside down, but the legs are pictured as the arms, and the spaulders and arms are shown as the legs. I just can't see someone who has ABSOLUTELY no idea about armour, buying this at an estate sale. If they were really that dumb, they would be trying to sell it for much much more thinking its antique armour or something.

We need to find out who this used to belong too. Rarely do we ever get a chance to find someone stupid enough to put this on ebay, and I think we, as a community of armourers and reenactors, need to step up and do whatever we can to catch this guy if indeed the armour is stolen.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:46 pm
by Calder
Assuming it is stolen, bid and bid and never pay...it's happened to me plenty of times as a seller, but thats assuming it is stolen for sure...karma can be a bit of a bugger....

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:05 pm
by Charles Alexander
Calder de Clairvaux wrote:...karma can be a bit of a bugger....


Indeed...

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:07 pm
by Seamus mac Dhughaill
Estate sale can also mean this guy bought the contents of an unpaid storage shed. If someone gets behind on rent, the owners will first lock them out and then if it goes too long will sell the contents to highest bidder, sight unseen.

This could be legit. People seem to think negative of others too quickly. We should give this person the benefit of the doubt.

my 2 pence,

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:17 pm
by Brynjolfr Hrafnsson
This seller has a TON of negative feedback. Lots of people paid him for things and he never shipped them. There are only 3 negatives in the last 12 months, but go back further through the detailed feedback and he has ripped a lot of folks off.

I wouldnt bid on this armor even if it *is* legit.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:33 pm
by Lucas
There is a guy at my local practice in Arlington, VA (close to the maryland border) who fights in a full Ice suit, just like this, identical helmet and everything. I will see if I can contact him.

Lucas

chain

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:46 pm
by waveicle
Someone must recognize this setup by the brass band of chain at the bottom of the shirt.

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:52 pm
by Richard of Rivenvale
It is no longer available. The listing has been removed.


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Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:03 pm
by Castus_valerius
I'm guessing someone messaged ebay.