Sigillum Roberti Fratris

Ziad · Post by **Ziad** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:19 pm

...ducis mathei (sic)

In the center, a lion, statant.

Obviously, the Seal of Robert, brother to Duke Matthew.

Anybody got a clue to which Robert, which Matthew?

Or what the heck it is doing on a plastic button????

:?:

Z

Ziad · Post by **Ziad** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:24 pm

Okay, Robert, brother to Mathieu of Lorraine...

Seems to have died 1176, but his shield, at least, bore an eagle armed with a sword - at least according to the fuzzy source I found.

Anybody got anything more?

Z

Blaine de Navarre · Post by **Blaine de Navarre** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:35 pm

[quote]ROBERT de Lorraine (-before 1208, bur StÃ¼rzelbronn Abbey[81]). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines in 1193 names "dux Matheus et Robertus" as sons of "ducis Symonis"[82]. â€œDominus Symon dux, comes Robertus patruus eiusâ€¦â€

Blaine de Navarre · Post by **Blaine de Navarre** » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:45 pm

From the City of Florange official web site (Google translation)

In the 12th century a castle was built in Florange. Robert de la Marck founded the branch Florange-Lorraine.
The Lordship is one of the most important of Lorraine and the fortress is one of the most formidable in the region of Thionville.

Not sure if Robert de la Marck is the same Robert...

Ziad · Post by **Ziad** » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:50 am

Thanks, Blaine! Really cool information.

Now, for the 64 livre question: what the heck is it doing on a set of plastic buttons that my wife found in a large mixed bag in an antique mall?

Curiouser and curiouser...

Z