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SCA Name Documentation - Dunncha Mwngwmry

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Could I get somebody who knows Gaelic help me document "Dunncha Mwngwmry"?
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Don't know Gaelic. Do know how to use a search engine. :lol:

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Surname 'Mwngwmry' also found in Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow.
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Awsome! How about the first name?
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I found it in some doc that is a translation of some event in 917. Too big of a gap between first name and last name dates.

Link for the name since there wasn't much mention of that name.

http://www.archive.org/stream/chronicum ... t_djvu.txt
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Karen Larsdatter wrote:Surname 'Mwngwmry' also found in Abstracts of Protocols of the Town Clerks of Glasgow.


I found "Duncan" in there also. Thanks.
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Thomas MacFinn wrote:Could I get somebody who knows Gaelic help me document "Dunncha Mwngwmry"?


Actually, Mwngwmry is a Lowland Scots name. That's easy to spot, because Gaelic doesn't use the letter 'w'. Folks have turned up some good sources for you already. If you want a no-photocopy source for SCA submission, Black's book The Surnames of Scotland dates the spelling Mwngwmry to 1562 under the header spelling Montgomery. (The surname comes from the name of a castle in France.)

Under the header spelling Duncan, Black says the spelling Duncha is found in Gaelic c. 1520. The name Duncha Mwngwmry would be registrable in the SCA with that documentation, but it would be more authentic to use a Scots-style spelling, like Duncan or Dunkan.

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