Hello all
I wonder whether or not you might be able to help me? I have been told/read somewhere that at a specific tournament a group of Ladies fought disguised in armour and men's clothing to compete. After the fights where done they revealed that they were in fact women much to the annoyance and embarrassment of the assembled fighters and crowd.
For the life of me I have been unable to find the quotes for this, can anyone help me at all?
Kindest regards
Graham
Women in tournaments?
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Re: Women in tournaments?
I think I remember reading something about that in "Fashion in the age of the Black Prince", but I cannot be certain....
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Re: Women in tournaments?
I am not aware of this as a historical event, but you might be thinking of some literary works referred to as the Ladies Tournament???
Articles about the French and German versions here:
http://www.megapathdsl.net/~amichaels/g ... itancy.pdf
http://www.megapathdsl.net/~amichaels/g ... nament.pdf
Articles about the French and German versions here:
http://www.megapathdsl.net/~amichaels/g ... itancy.pdf
http://www.megapathdsl.net/~amichaels/g ... nament.pdf
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Re: Women in tournaments?
Kenwrec Wulfe wrote:I think I remember reading something about that in "Fashion in the age of the Black Prince", but I cannot be certain....
Maybe you are thinking of Henry Knighton's 1348 "Women Ape Men" account? This should link to a google book that reproduces that passage:
http://books.google.com/books?id=lInpLc ... .'&f=false
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Re: Women in tournaments?
Have you read through this thread?
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Re: Women in tournaments?
Ahh yes... the Women of ludicrous wantonness.
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Re: Women in tournaments?
I'd guess you have in mind the Knighton passage someone already gave a link to. I don't think there are any recorded instances of women (or even a woman) participating in the fighting of a tournament.
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Re: Women in tournaments?
Cliff Rogers wrote:I'd guess you have in mind the Knighton passage someone already gave a link to. I don't think there are any recorded instances of women (or even a woman) participating in the fighting of a tournament.
Cliff
There is period fiction of women disguised as men in tournaments (e.g. "Silence"); if it ever really happened they would most certainly have been so disguised, and apparently were successful enough that none were ever found out and reported to posterity.
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