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1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:31 am
by Gregoire de Lyon
Hi All-

I'm trying to find additional information beyond what is in A Distant Mirror on the Order of the Crown. Tuchman lists two or three documents in her citations, all of which are pushing two hundreds years old - I was hoping for something either primary, or much more recent if possible. I've struck out on JSTOR.

Thanks in advance.

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:11 pm
by Thomas Powers
I have a book on various european orders prior to the end of the Napoleonic wars. I'll see if I can find it. It's fairly short usually giving how an order was founded, who could be in it, when it was dissolved, etc.

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:36 pm
by Gregoire de Lyon
Thomas Powers wrote:I have a book on various european orders prior to the end of the Napoleonic wars. I'll see if I can find it. It's fairly short usually giving how an order was founded, who could be in it, when it was dissolved, etc.


Great, thanks! If it has any references that I could follow up with I'd really appreciate it.

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:58 pm
by Thomas Powers
Tonight is Bad Movie Night so I won't get a chance to hit the books till tomorrow evening.

I wish I could remember the name of the book; one of the oddities found in a rural town in NM at the fleamarket or thrift stores.

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:11 am
by Baron Alcyoneus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_t ... 8France%29

The Order of the Lion was an order of knighthood set up by Enguerrand I of Coucy (or, according to other sources, his son Enguerrand II), to keep alive the memory of his killing a dangerous lion. It was short-lived and was forgotten after its founder's death. His successor Enguerrand VII founded the Order of the Crown in 1378 - Gustav Ackermann mentions the two orders as among the historical orders of France.

I googled Order of the Crown 1379 and found a bit more information via Google books.

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:40 am
by Derian le Breton
The Knights of the Crown: The Monarchical Orders of Knighthood in Later Medieval Europe 1325-1520, D'A.J.D. Boulton, may have more information.

ISBN-10: 0851157955
ISBN-13: 978-0851157955

-Derian.

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:01 am
by Thomas Powers
I looked through 6 bookcases before coming into work and didn't see that book I mentioned. may mean it's "in play" in the house. Sorry!

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:05 am
by Gregoire de Lyon
Thanks for looking Thomas!

Thanks BA and Derian - I found those references yesterday. There was some good info in both of them.

Thanks everyone!

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:40 pm
by Vitus von Atzinger
I just finished Knights of the Crown if you want it.

Re: 1379 The Order of the Crown

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:45 pm
by Gregoire de Lyon
Vitus von Atzinger wrote:I just finished Knights of the Crown if you want it.


I'd be interested in borrowing it, yes!