13th C. Scabbard and Belt

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13th C. Scabbard and Belt

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In this first picture I've cut the deerskin to fit the wooden scabbard and glued it on the front. I've also started stitching the red deer belt.

[img]http://monsieurgeoffrey.faithweb.com/images/13th_scabbard_before_sewing.jpg[/img]

In this second picture I am stitching up the back of the scabbard:

[img]http://monsieurgeoffrey.faithweb.com/images/13th_scabbard_sewing.jpg[/img]

In the third picture, I have finished most of the stitching, and have cut the belt pieces for the "weaving" into and around the scabbard:

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In this last picture, the red deer has been "woven" through slots cut in the chocolate deer, and the pieces cut and stitched to fit:

[img]http://monsieurgeoffrey.faithweb.com/images/13_c_scab_done.jpg[/img]

Next, I will disassemble it, dye the red deer chocolate brown, mount the Trumpington brass eyelets, buckle and tip (hear that Tim!!!), and reassemble it, gluing the remainder of the chocolate deer to the scabbard. I intend to make a plaque with my coat-of-arms on the bottom strap, either by acid-etching or casting, with enamel for the colours. That is, if Tim is still going to make the Trumpington fittings, if not, I'll have to carve a buckle tip and an eyelet out of wax and cast them myself, which will add months to the project. (Hint, hint, Tim!)
I will also replace the leather on the grip of the sword with the same chocolate deer as is on the scabbard.

Special thanks to Templar Bob, Robert' de Tyre, for the research on the lacing patterns and the knot. [img]http://www.armourarchive.org/ubb/cool.gif[/img]

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Bascot---I hear you loud and clear!

At the moment, the reworked Trumpington buckle is at the old foundry where they are making a rubber mold from the proto and casting up 5 new test samples. Same goes for the Trump eyelets.

The casting prices are so good from the new foundry that I will be casting the flat belt stiffener plates instead of fabricating them from brass stock. I will be placing my first big order with the new foundry within a week or so.

The Trump chape still needs to be resculpted from scratch, and I decided the buckle needs an attachment plate in order to be true to the original funerary monument.

A realistic forcast is that I will be able to ship finished sets at the end of April. I will keep you updated.

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BTW---Beautiful work on that scabbard & belt!!!

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Beautiful work! I have been planning to make a scabbard just like this one (down to the same lacing pattern) and these pictures are an inspiration to get on with it all the quicker! You wouldn't happen to have a shot of the back of the laced scabbard? I think I've got the basic pattern figured out, but I'm not 100% sure...

Also, what kind of wood did you use?

Thanks!

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Post by Guy Dawkins »

This is truely inspiring!
I've always been confused by the lacing of the belt to the scabbard. How does that work?

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That's awesome stuff, Bascot! It would be a great photo-essay, some day, if you documented the entire process, from wood, to finish.

Looks great!

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Thanks everyone for the complements!
Templar Bob has some photos of the back of the lacing, I'll see if I can get him to post them if he's got the film developed.

As far as the wood goes, this particular scabbard came from Christian Fletcher with a 14th C. del Tin that is "ready to break", so I hung it on the wall before it could. The blade was identical to this 13th C. one, and so I was adapting it.
The scabbard is wood with a cowhide covering tightly glued to it, so I wasn't able to cut the leather to weave the laces through. Plus the deer hide looks ten times cooler, and it allowed me to change the colour to chocolate.

On my projects page,

http://monsieurgeoffrey.faithweb.com/photo.html

You can see a Viking scabbard I made from scratch. It was done as following:
1) Sheep fleece was shaved to about 1/4", wrapped around the blade fur in, and stitched up the flat of the blade.
2) Two pieces of basswood were cut an inch larger than the blade, the insides were hollowed out with a chisel and mallet, then the outside was chiseled and shaped with a rasp. I cheesed and ran a belt sander over it to smooth it with an old sanding belt.
3) Rawhide was soaked and wrapped around the wood and stitched tightly along the back side.
4) After it had dried and shrunk, I glued deer hide over it and stitched it up the back the same as I did here.
5) Bronze plates were cut and brazed for the chape, and the fleece was turned down on the locket and glued.

I am going to purchase a Paul Binns blade for Regia use next summer/fall (once I can afford it), and will make another "from scratch" scabbard. I'll try to take pictures of each step then.

Thanks once again...

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I've seen -and admired greatly- your representation of a viking hersir. I have handled one or two Paul Binns blades and I can imagine you would want to make something special for one of those. Image
I'm working on a mid-14th century (1362, to be exact) mercenary myself. Dutch nationality, fighting in France. I've got a non-documented, dodgy-looking scabbard for my sword at the moment, but hope to replace that with one similar to this 13th century one. Would you think it appropriate or believable for my persona to have such a scabbard? Or would another type/construction suit him better? Keeping in mind he's not a noble, but a little higher-up than the common foot soldier in his unit's pecking order...

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Post by JJ Shred »

According to Oakeshott Archaeology of weapons page 241, this is dated c. 1220-1320.
The Can Grande della Scala, c.1329 is made with a metal locket with two rings, and an additional ring on a metal fitting located 4" or so down the blade.
The swords shown on effigies worn vertically appear to be steel or copper-alloy fittings attached by rings.
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