Howdy,
In the 1500 AD time frame (1495-1505 AD) were the arming coats quilted or layered? Or did both versions exist? I'm defining quilted as those stuffed tubes.
The reason I ask is I just finished the vest portion of a quilted arming coat. I showed it off with great pride to my friends, and they told me (gently) that it was as period as Coca-Cola to 1500 AD.
For some reason, I find it hard to believe that everything was in layers. The protection (SCA) is GREAT with this quilted coat. It was even suggested that I could forgo the steel and fight in it. Once you push the material into the tubes tightly, the vest has a consistency and performance characteristics of a hard rubber.
Help? Did I pull "reverse research" again, or am I on the right track...somewhere?
-Aaron
Quilted or Layered?
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I saw an armoring doublet that was 10 layers of linen, and a jack made of 18 layers that were quilted.
I think some one on the board once put forth an argument that the tube quilting was an SCA invention, but I could be wrong about that.
I an making an armoring doublet for 1535 for myself and I am using 100% cotton batting to layer the center to cut down on the cost. My 100% linen cost about 3$ a yard and that is a deal for linen. I am making 2 layers of linen, one inside one outside, and 4 to 6 layers of cotton batting for my doublet.
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I think some one on the board once put forth an argument that the tube quilting was an SCA invention, but I could be wrong about that.
I an making an armoring doublet for 1535 for myself and I am using 100% cotton batting to layer the center to cut down on the cost. My 100% linen cost about 3$ a yard and that is a deal for linen. I am making 2 layers of linen, one inside one outside, and 4 to 6 layers of cotton batting for my doublet.
Flonzy
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Aaron:
<B>Howdy,
In the 1500 AD time frame (1495-1505 AD) were the arming coats quilted or layered? Or did both versions exist? I'm defining quilted as those stuffed tubes.
-Aaron</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ok, but technically "quilting" is pretty much anything of multiple layers sewn through to tie it together (vs. making a seam). Quilting doesn't assume there is batting.
I assume the "tubes" you refer to are layers of fabric quilted in rows and then stuffed with tow or wool? I think Tim Finkas tried this. It certainly looked very cool. I've heard mention that it is an "SCAism", but I've only seen re-enactors do it. In the SCA, I've only seen quilting through batting.
I think the question is really "sewn through batting or stuffed"...
Juliana
<B>Howdy,
In the 1500 AD time frame (1495-1505 AD) were the arming coats quilted or layered? Or did both versions exist? I'm defining quilted as those stuffed tubes.
-Aaron</B></font><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ok, but technically "quilting" is pretty much anything of multiple layers sewn through to tie it together (vs. making a seam). Quilting doesn't assume there is batting.
I assume the "tubes" you refer to are layers of fabric quilted in rows and then stuffed with tow or wool? I think Tim Finkas tried this. It certainly looked very cool. I've heard mention that it is an "SCAism", but I've only seen re-enactors do it. In the SCA, I've only seen quilting through batting.
I think the question is really "sewn through batting or stuffed"...
Juliana