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bogman?
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:33 pm
by Tom Knighton
I had heard something regarding a find in an Irish bog. It was referred to me as "bogman". Does anyone know anything about this?
Thanks,
Bran
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:15 pm
by Payn
Bocksten Bogman?
There are a few different bogmen and women.
Bocksten was a well enough preserved body that the police were doing the burder investigation until they realized that the murderers and their next 20 generations or so were probably dead. The Bocksten man was found in Sweden I think, sometime in the 1930's. Dr Albert Sandklef had done the original work on the dig and conservation of the body. Margaretta Knockert redid the conservation in the late 70's/early 80's. She wrote a book about it "Bockstenmannen och hans drakt" that is really good, but in Swedish. Captions and a section in the back is in English though. Sandklef's original writeup of the dig was printed in Acta Ethnologica in 1937.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 6:46 am
by Tom Knighton
I heard about this one third hand. My understanding is that this was an find in Ireland, but I can't be 100% certian of this. I heard at the same time that much of this information was available on the web and want to find the address if possible. Research is goooooooooooood!
Bran
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:41 am
by Gobae
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 9:56 am
by James B.
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:42 am
by Xander
Quite a few "Bogmen" found In Ireland seeing as this hell hole is full of bogs and marshes. What period is the bogman you are talking about? I know of one who was found very well preserved with a coat and trousers on, 15th or 16th century I think.
I have heard of many others some found quite close to where I live.
Xander
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:43 am
by Gwen
According to P.V. Glob "The Bog People, Iron Age Man Preserved" (Translated by Rupert Bruce-Mitford, Barnes& Noble Press, ISBN 0-7607-0361-2), there have been 19 bog bodies found in Ireland (pg. 101)
Hope that helps!
Gwen
Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2003 7:14 pm
by Tom Knighton
As I understand it (heard about it thrid person and all), it's apparently 9th century or so. Hope this clarifies things up some.
Thanks for all the help folks!
Bran
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 3:07 am
by valen
A body is likely found every few weeks in an Irish bog; the very high iron content in bog water is an excellent preservative; it's almost completely anaerobic also.
There have been finds from the early bronze age, say 1500BC (often sacrifices/executions; throats found cut and the arms and legs bound), to the hundreds executed during the civil war (on both sides) and just dumped in bog holes, so paperwork didn't have to be done.
Unfortunately, the bogs are Irelands only source of fossil fuels, so massive machines like combine harvesters chew through these bodies on a regular basis.
I did an Iron Age gig at the Corlea Bog Road interpretive centre a while back. A wonderful example of iron age engineering combined with stupidity. They have oak planking from 300 mature trees, laid into a road. It was used to cross the bog by traders, and was dated to 150BC or so. (the guys who built it forgot that stuff sinks in bogs, so it sunk about 20 years after it was put down).
They have 22 meters of it now preserved. The rest of it was eaten by said combine harvesters, shipped off to power stations and burnt. Some of the bigger planks - the couldn't chew up are just lying around on the top of what's left of the bog.
John