looking for patterns

Patton Lives · Post by **Patton Lives** » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:06 pm

Decided I am going to make my own stuff for now. Where would I get a pattern for a puropoint thingy(vest that points to your leg armor)

kass · Post by **kass** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:49 pm

There are no pourpoint patterns on the market of which I am aware.

But I'll put it on my list...

Guy Dawkins · Post by **Guy Dawkins** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 3:52 pm

Kass,

Men's 14th C in 2004
Men's 14th C in 2004
Men's 14th C in 2004

Pretty please!! :cry:

kass · Post by **kass** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:19 pm

Sorry Guy. I couldn't do another pattern for 2004 if you paid me to do it.

14th and 15th century in (early) 2005. I PROMISE!

Kass

Guy Dawkins · Post by **Guy Dawkins** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 4:47 pm

another Pennsic in crappy t-tunics :cry:

Parlan · Post by **Parlan** » Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:42 pm

This arming vest thingie (pourpoint) is on my list for the spring. If I get to it I'll give out the pattern. It'll be much like the Carles du Blois arming coat (disputed, I know) but without the sleeves and not padded.

Angus Bjornssen · Post by **Angus Bjornssen** » Wed Mar 10, 2004 1:47 am

Right, go look at a copy of Techniques of Medieval Armor Reproduction by Brian R. Price (a very cool man for publishing that book) and in it you will find, if not a pattern, then at least photos of what one looks like. It's a simple thing, somewhat like a form fitted vest that reaches down to where your leg armor starts. It's not very thick, maybe a couple layers of sturdy material, that buttons up the front but seems to be reinforced with leather stitched in at the arming points. Perhaps, if your persona is inclined to be vain, you could add a shell of silk or something. Just kidding. Anyway, the shoulder straps are narrow and tend to be more toward the neck than the shoulder. This is apparently to avoid the whole thing lifting when the arms are raised. Also, the armpit area seems to be a bit lower (maybe an inch or so) than you might expect.

Since no one will see it, and the example given in TOMAR is based on real research, you could go with that design for a 14c kit. I've no idea how it was done earlier, but within later dedades it may have been similar.

Wow, I guess the whole point of this post is: you can make a pattern yourself. Find a halfway decent vest, dissect it, trace it and extend it down. Once you do that, you can see how to modify it to become a purpoint. The great part is, if you do it first, you can sell the pattern. Just expect it to take a couple tries to get it right.

Angus (Matt itrw)