Fencing Visors

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » Tue May 04, 2004 5:29 am

Hi everyone,

Can anyone provide any information, artwork/images or helmets that consist of a fencing visor? By fencing visor I mean a visor that has only small holes in it for sight and breathing (think 5 - 10 mm drill hole size).

I have an image from Talhoffer's 1443 fencing treatise of such a fencing visor and bascinet but wont post it just yet as I'll have to upload it to a geocities website. But any information would be much appreciated. It is for use for headstrikes with metal weapons.

Regards,
Wyrm.

Winterfell · Post by **Winterfell** » Tue May 04, 2004 10:15 am

This one:
http://www.swordsandarmor.com/images/H002603.JPG
Not cheap but at least you can ask some armourers if they can make it better.
The "waffle" grill bascinet is another I have seen in contemporary illustrations.

Guy Dawkins · Post by **Guy Dawkins** » Tue May 04, 2004 2:23 pm

Are you looking for period examples or what is currently being produced for SCA rapier combat?

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » Wed May 05, 2004 3:15 am

thanks for the image, this is the thing I am looking for and yes I am looking to see their use (or lack of) in history, not in SCA (but at the risk of being crucified on the authenticity archive I am kinda curious about the SCA rapier visors...)

Guy Dawkins wrote:Are you looking for period examples or what is currently being produced for SCA rapier combat?

rbaldwin · Post by **rbaldwin** » Thu May 06, 2004 12:00 am

Wyrmspleen wrote:Hi everyone,
I have an image from Talhoffer's 1443 fencing treatise of such a fencing visor and bascinet but wont post it just yet as I'll have to upload it to a geocities website.

Could you post it? I'd really love to see it, as I'm very interested in period visors that might fulfill SCA rapier regulations.

Domenico

Winterfell · Post by **Winterfell** » Thu May 06, 2004 9:37 am

This?
http://perso.club-internet.fr/jfgilles/ ... es/075.jpg
Or this?
http://perso.club-internet.fr/jfgilles/ ... es/081.jpg

rbaldwin · Post by **rbaldwin** » Fri May 07, 2004 11:31 pm

Ah, so you didn't mean a mask or helm made for fencing that isn't worn with full armour.

I was hoping for the above, but these images should be very useful nonetheless. Thanks very much.

Domenico

Wyrm · Post by **Wyrm** » Sat May 08, 2004 3:59 am

thanks for those images Winterfell. The image I had is black and white and much the same, a bascinet with visor. Except it is totally without the eye slot, using only small holes for both breathing and sight.

Wyrm.

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