"The Battle of Cassel"
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0008.jpg
central fighter, with red slit sleeves, blue mantle & skullcap, green gambeson body. The body of the garment is loose around the waist compared to covered breastplates around him. I've never seen something like this in the mid 1400s. He may be wearing maille or encased plate arms under the sleeves. Comments?
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edit; found this one also from the froissart series, with many examples of slit sleeves, though no armour underneath; "Robert the Bruce meets Edward III"
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0006.jpg
slit sleeves in 15th fighting...gambeson?
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slit sleeves in 15th fighting...gambeson?
Last edited by Magmaforge on Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I believe he is wearing a gown over his armor; it is commonly depicted in 15th century manuscripts. It is like the gown these men are wearing:
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/f ... 3_0006.jpg
The gown may have different color sleeves or it may have a livery gown over it.
http://home.armourarchive.org/members/f ... 3_0006.jpg
The gown may have different color sleeves or it may have a livery gown over it.
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Re: slit sleeves in 15th fighting...gambeson?
Magmaforge wrote:"The Battle of Cassel"
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0008.jpg
central fighter, with red slit sleeves, blue mantle & skullcap, green gambeson body. The body of the garment is loose around the waist compared to covered breastplates around him. I've never seen something like this in the mid 1400s. He may be wearing maille or encased plate arms under the sleeves. Comments?
-Mag
edit; found this one also from the froissart series, with many examples of slit sleeves, though no armour underneath; "Robert the Bruce meets Edward III"
http://www.bnf.fr/enluminures/images/jpeg/i3_0006.jpg
As James has noted, he is wearing a civilian gown over what appears to be a hauberk, and a livery (note the other fellows in green just like his), and a hood over that - his helmet over the hood.
As James notes, gowns or non-heraldic clothing being worn over armour seems to have been reasonably common in late 15th century art.
The fellow wearing a livery over what is possibly a jack would be the fellow with the red livery, center, bottom, with a blue scarf round his helmet.
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