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15th Centruy (Agincourt / 100 Years War) Faulds

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:21 pm
by Mike F
So, I've been looking through effigies, and I'm fairly certain I know what I want to do and how to do it, except for the tassets I find on the breastplates. Does anyone have any pictures or suggestions? I don't find overly much that is helpful, aside from rather complete documentation of a 1540-1590 suit (much later period than I want, and it shows) and some site with a suit which uses a Churburg 13 with a diagonal tasset which dips from the hips to the front of the crotch.

The suit I have the documentation for has tassets largely similar to this suit. http://www.highland-mercenaries.com/armor/armor-1.gif

Would that seem right for 1415 or so if I stopped after the first three or so lames so it would still have a flat bottom?

And this is the general style of effigies I'm working from.

http://www.gothiceye.com/pictures.asp?categoryID=3&offset=72

Thanks!

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:20 pm
by chef de chambre
As a general rule, suits from the first 15 -20 years of the 15th century, in Northern Europe had no tassets. They had a deep set of faulds. There are very few pictoral exceptions to this general trend, and the first tassets appearing (post Agincourt, I believe), are more like very small extenstions to the fauld, rather than mid 15th century tassets. The first harness you linked to is a late 16th century suit, and nothing on it resembles early 15th century harness.

Edited to add the Churburg harness you refer to is a purely Italian harness, which you do not see stylistically in Northern European art of the years you reference.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:14 pm
by Mike F
I think I used the wrong word. Is a fauld one contigous piece across the bottom of the breastplate while tassets are two pieces? If so, I meant fauld when I said tasset, sorry. :oops:

The first picture was what I could find even remotely similar to the harness I have pictures of. I'd post those, but they're a meg+ a pop and I have no image editing software on my laptop. At least not anything that actually works right.

Basically I'm trying to figure out what's on the bottom of that breastplate. Are they leather-articulated lames that run from side of hip to side of hip?

I understand about Churburg. I'm basing my armor of English effigies, but I really need to see the actual piece to really understand it. I learned so much by just sketching one harness for two hours. Pity I couldn't touch it. :(

Anyway, time to look up fauld! :) Thanks, Chef!