What are these garments?

Dierick · Post by **Dierick** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:47 pm

What exactly are these men wearing? Looks a lot like a houppeland fashioned in the kastenbrust style, but I can find no other depictions of these. Was this style common? I have a lot of pictures from the time period that show typical houppelands worn along side men in very boxed shaped kastenbrust breastplates, so I was wondering if maybe this was a regional thing that wasn't very common.

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/Christoffel/7008215.jpg[/img]

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 1:24 am

I believe all the visible houppelandes there are the regular kind, more or less. It looks like the center-background rider's houpp has some padding done, and the center foreground man eschews such puffery.

The pink guys have something like a short cloak on over everything, as does the brown guy on the right next to the one in dark blue.

Donal Mac Ruiseart · Post by **Donal Mac Ruiseart** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:15 am

Big Hair.

James B. · Post by **James B.** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:38 am

They have gowns on and a few have capes on over the gowns. They are pleated like many other gowns of the time the artist's style is just odd.

^ · Post by ^ » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:58 am

James B. wrote: the artist's style is just odd.

Not odd just German. Or is there a difference.

Dierick, one of the best ways to learn about a garment is to find as much art from a time and place as you can especially a set of images from a manuscript like that one there. Typically in the later medieval period there will only be a handful of different garment types depicted.

Konstantin the Red · Post by **Konstantin the Red** » Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:37 am

And then you might try a check with Herbert Norris' works on the history of fashion, and see if they can clear up any questions.